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Meanwhile, China has been - quite remarkably - standing their ground, increasing tariffs on the US to 125%, and putting restrictions on rare earths. Xi Jinping has been in Vietnam and has made statements against a tariff war there, saying that it would have no winners. Meanwhile, a Chinese spokesperson has essentially said that China can endure the tariff war due to the increasing demand from its domestic market in combination with its growing economic ties with other countries.


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[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 62 points 2 weeks ago

Is anyone here who is good at economic bullshit? Lots of companies ran by private equity have gone bankrupt recently and I'm sure more will go bankrupt now because of the tariffs (and because bankrupting companies is their entire business model). So when does that start effecting the underlying securities, like CLOs - securities that contain these toxic loans and were mostly bought up by ETFs and big pension funds everywhere? When the real estate market started weakening in 2007, it took over a year for the banks to start revaluing the underlying securities.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You picked a good day to ask that question:

https://www.ft.com/content/42a7bacb-05f3-4c04-80eb-c29b9f720d8d

https://archive.is/T3fSr

One thing to note here is that CLOs are usually made up of senior secured loans, meaning they are at the top of the capital stack and secured by actually assets that are, in theory, equal to the value of the loans. This is important in the case of a bankruptcy. Senior secured lenders get paid first in a bankruptcy and are going to have the best recovery rate (the amount of debt outstanding that they actually get back). There's still risk of exposure to junk grade stuff as the economy potentially cools/goes into a recession and borrowers get downgraded by credit agencies.

https://www.ft.com/content/ae51bf73-a50a-4140-a187-084af2cc25f5

https://archive.is/T0jKE

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Damn, awesome timing! Thanks.

More recently, they’ve become a big hit with retail investors, thanks to the Federal Reserve’s rate increases since 2022 juicing the returns of their floating-rate loans.

Retail just loves piling into stupid investments, that is amazing. How do they even know about this? Are there celebrity ETF managers out there? Does ETF have its own Cathie Wood or Elon Musk?

The underlying bonds inside an ETF are not priced real time

Yea, this article talks about ETFs trading at a discount, but what are the mechanics of the CLOs they hold? When do those get revalued, I'm guessing only after the bankruptcy proceedings (when they happen) are done and it is precisely known how much money was lost inside the specific CLO and they have to be revalued, or do the banks just do it whenever they feel like it? Because even if the company is no longer paying back its insane adjustable-rate loan, everyone probably presumes that they will get the full value of the loan back in bankruptcy (lol), right?

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not sure when you wrote this, read the second article I added if you haven't

When do those get revalued

The simplest answer is "when they are sold". What FT means by that is that bonds aren't sold on an exchange like stocks or ETFs are, and are instead traded less frequently and usually sold through broker-dealers (over-the-counter), so the whole process is decentralized and it can take a while for prices to adjust. Stocks and ETFs are sold on exchanges and are price in real time due to being traded more and market makers keeping the market relatively liquid

One of the things that not talked about in here, which gives me some concer, is what's known as "liability management exercises", where companies restructure their debt in a way that brings in new creditors that place them in a "super senior" position above their own senior creditors (which means the new ones get paid out before the old ones) called uptiering, or transferring collateral (what a loan is secured against) to a subsidiary in order to borrow against it again (called a dropdown) even though it's supposed to be collateral in an existing loan. A lot of creditors are behind the curve on protecting against this bullshit that a bunch of lawyers created, and big ETFs that own this stuff aren't necessarily going to be monitoring everything they hold to make sure their collateral or position in the capital stack has been eroded the same way a traditional creditor would.

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah, I will read it, thanks. I clicked on your post right as you wrote it.

Damn, so there is extra bullshit on top of bullshit that I already don't fully understand. That is awesome. I'm guessing that the banks don't really care about the new "super senior" stuff, since this time (unlike 2008) they don't own anything in the chain, once they sell the CLO to a pension fund the banks are no longer at risk from any side of the equation. And that is assuming that private equity didn't already squeeze everything out of the company before it goes bankrupt, like selling its assets and real estate and then doing lease-back for it.

Thanks for the info, it sucks! normal

[edit]

Goldman Sachs lifted its default projections for US loan borrowers sharply last week, anticipating a 12-month trailing default rate of 8 per cent for leveraged loan issuers by the end of this year — up sharply from a previous estimate of 3.5 per cent.

That is huge! O_o

A jump above that 7.5 per cent ceiling could flip protective switches within CLOs

Ah! I guess this is new?

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

I just went back and answered your question about pricing in my last comment, fyi.

I'm guessing that the banks don't really care about the new "super senior" stuff, since this time (unlike 2008) they don't own anything in the chain, once they sell the CLO to a pension fund the banks are no longer at risk from any side of the equation.

The banks absolutely care, it's just that all of this stuff is still somewhat new. There was just a big test case today where NY State court upheld an uptiering transaction (Mitel Networking). There's even a whole term for this whole thing, "creditor on creditor violence" lol. There are more lenders that are putting in protections against LMEs into their credit agreements with debtors, but generally the bankers are behind the lawyers in terms of this shit (except for the big guys who can pay the real cutthroat big law firms).

[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I will check it out, thanks!

"creditor on creditor violence"

I'd absolutely watch that show!

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago

"creditor on creditor violence"

One of those new things we learn about when things are going totally fine

[-] context@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

just a normal, healthy economy producing goods and services with all of this invested capital instead of melting it all down to sell for scrap, you betcha

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

look at 'fair value hierarchy'

In an active exchange market (e.g., NYSE, London Stock Exchange), closing prices are both readily available and representative of fair value.

In a dealer market, dealers stand ready to trade at an executable bid or ask price for their own account, thereby providing market liquidity by using their capital to hold an inventory of the items for which they make a market. Over-the-counter markets are dealer markets.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ah! I guess this is new?

No, those are fairly standard. The CLO managers would be required to start selling off the loans they own, and potentially lower tranche owners wouldn't get paid as a result.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, I'm looking! I love Cathie. I was talking about the CLO business specifically.

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