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[-] D_C@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He's most likely dead. That's the reason why they can't get him back.

Edit: furthermore even if Chunky Cheeto said on TV that he knows the guy is dead because he killed him himself then absolutely nothing would be done about it.
USA, the land of seemingly unlimited guns yet none of you will do anything about the dictatorship that is happening before your eyes.

[-] misterdoctor@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

USA, the land of seemingly unlimited guns yet none of you will do anything about the dictatorship that is happening before your eyes.

Remember how America has the largest military on the planet, and how even our local police forces are armed with machines of war and mass destruction. Yeah, every single one of those guys works for the dictator so forgive me if I don’t go John Fucking Rambo on the White House with a repeater I bought at Walmart.

We’re showing up to protests by the millions, we’re using our voices, we’re pressuring elected leaders to stand up and fight back, we’re fucking trying to stop this shit, so honestly fuck off with this sort of reductive armchair general critiquing.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Remember how America has the largest military on the planet, and how even our local police forces are armed with machines of war and mass destruction.

This guy went against a column of tanks with two bags of groceries.

Americans can't get organised to march with their guns to see how far the military will defend the dictatorship, when you make it hard for them.

So for years we've been right about the 2A, completely useless and only there to feed the military-industrial machine, weak egos and gang violence.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

He also got disappeared, never to be seen or heard from again. Not exactly the example I'd use.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

The question is what is the right thing to do, no matter the personal cost.

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

By pointing out American hypocrisy through a reductionist view of gun politics in the U.S.?

If you can't figure out by now that the majority of blue voters are not the ones who were arming themselves... or that they were the ones voting for gun control... what are you trying to say, again?

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

what are you trying to say, again?

Oh, it's quite simple, really:

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for your meaningful contribution.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The time for my contributions to matter to the problems in the US is kinda gone.

The point is that it's up to you now.

I'll do what I can to help but it's not like rational dicussion of policy will matter much now, will it? Now would be the time to utilise the 2A if it had any leg to stand on, but as we've been telling the American conservatives (and other gun enthusiasts) for years, it doesn't.

Ironic it went this way but literally, what can I do?

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Ironic it went this way but literally, what can I do?

Well if we could harness the power of Smug you could light up the world.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh no, is joking about other nations wrong when the butt of the joke is you and not a developing nation you're bombing or taking over economically?

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah and he died. Get off your fucking high horse and stop pressuring people to commit suicide in the name of what you think is right.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh no, is standing up to dictators and fascism dangerous?

Well better just lick boots then, huh?

It's not like fascism ever endangered any lives, right? It's not like we had this exact conversation about "resistance not being the answer, we can't be expected to put ourself in danger" 100 years ago.

And back then we let the fascist fucksticks get all the way to engineered killing camps. Are we gonna let them get that far — again?

And if you're gonna say something about me being a keyboard warrior, I'm ready and trained and in the Finnish reserves. I don't like the idea of having to engage in combat, but I'll do what is necessary if it comes to that.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Sit there and wait for them to kill you instead. Guns are your only hope. Until you wake up and realize it you'll watch your countrymen be killed en masse. Possibly your own family and friends. Just because it's not you right now doesn't mean it's not going to be.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today -3 points 1 week ago

Immigration is your only choice

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Millions of us are protesting and direct action groups are gaining more support and being more active. We're slow to the draw yes, and this type of movement should have happened much earlier, but it's inaccurate to say none of us are doing anything

Edit to add: https://lemmy.world/post/28297299

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

i think the point hes getting at mainly is that none of the protesting groups are taking up firearms and removing the potus by force along with his cronies. you are not militant enough compared to what is written in your constitution for this exact scenerio.

protesting where the police allow you to is "controlled opposition" and its part of the allowed illusion of potential change. its what allows viewers at home who may agree with the movement, to feel hopeful, and like they dont have to do anything because someone else is already doing something. resolving things democratically will only take you so far with a head of state and entrenched system of control that not only doesnt follow the rules of democracy, but is actively trying to dismantle it.

protest as much as you wish, but if theres no bite after your bark, it rings hollow.

source? occupy wallstreet. where they poured champaign on protestors from high rises and skyscrapers, laughing, and taking pictures as they continued to rob everyone below. nothing changed. not really. if anything it got worse.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Every protest is a sea of organization. Thousands and thousands of people convening in a public space for a cause compels people to think about those next steps. It's a process of breaking inertia. But yes, these always require a politival mechanism: support for a bill, a race, a party, etc or they will get co-opted by the ruling class.

That's what happened with Occupy Wall Street, yes, though it still resulted in a major wave of political organization. The movement being ignored resulted in a major wave of disenfranchised people who turned to fascism thinking it would be a viable alternative. But at the same time it helped prime people to actually give Bernie a chance in 2016.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Taking up arms at this point would be absurdly foolish. They'd just deploy actual militant forces to stop you and you'd essentially kill any progressive movement for a couple decades, because they'd be associated with violence and extremism

[-] gaja@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think that's how that works. Historically, peace rarely gets results. Do you think the end of the holocaust came about through peaceful protest? French or American revolution? The hands off protest was marked 3rd largest in US history by Wikipedia and nothing has changed. Black lives matter protests were arguably ineffective considering we elected Trump again. We see time and time again that armed conservatives and police forces freely obtain what they want so much to the point that their most desperate members felt comfortable enough to storm the Capitol and they got pardoned. I think the mindset to advocate for peace isn't one that aligns with results. We see the results. I don't like violence, but I know they'd love to inflict violence against me.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I view both peaceful and violent protest to be tools meant to work together. The hammer of violence and the anvil of peace, shaping the politics of yore into something more useful.

Problem is, the media and education in America has solely emphasized peaceful movements, while ignoring or downplaying the value of violence. This is a deliberate effort made by evil oligarchs and naive peaceniks, whose reasons happen to align with the result.

[-] Glent@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

The revolution will not be televised.......

[-] Cocopanda@futurology.today 7 points 1 week ago

I keep telling everyone. Get armed and get trained. Because the war for this nation is coming.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It's here already just loads of you can't see it.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago

Well, the problem.on the guns side is that the Democrats spent decades villifying gun ownership, so 90% of the guns are owned by supporters of the fascist fuck.

[-] CMonster@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

It depends where you live honestly. I grew up in NJ in a very blue suburb and every male child on the block was out of school during the first week of deer season. Now that I'm older every leftist I know is strapped.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have like 50 guns. I tell people that I'm so far left that I've circled back around on guns.

But the reality is I'm mostly just a gun nerd who also used to be a gun salesman and got a ton of freebies from the manufacturer.

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