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[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

The romans killed jesus. He was put to death by the Roman leader.

[-] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Yeah wait, where does this idea even come from? Judas's betrayal or something?

[-] BioWarfarePosadist@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Either something about the Pharisees, aka the Jewish Evangelists, pulling Roman strings or that they set a murderer free instead of Jesus.

I don't get it, because the whole point of Jesus existence is to be tortured and killed for the sins of humanity, so all may be forgiven and go to heaven.

Not killing Jesus would have meant eternal damnation for all.

Once again, Christians who shout the most about Christianity understand Christianity the least.

[-] Crucible@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Genuinely most of the biblical reasoning I've seen used is that when Pilate says 'I wash my hands of you' it made the Pharisees responsible even though it was still Roman soldiers who did it, and that is not even close to how sin and blame works in either Judaism or Christianity

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

I think you'll find that original sin fits perfectly within a Christian framework

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Jews brought Jesus to the Romans in the bible. Jewish religious authorities asked the Romans to judge and kill him. The idea is then that for this sin the Jews are forever guilty. Sort of like an extra ethnic original sin. Judas does get roped into some antisemitism stuff, but usually not the biblical stuff since all the disciples were Jews.

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In the narrative we get jesus is accused by Jews (The pharisees) and brought to trial to be judged by Pontius Pilate who washes his hand of the affair leaving it to the Jews, they are then offered that either Jesus or someone else (I think Barnabas, but it's been a while since I cared about biblical stuff) be spared and the Jews pick the other guy. The Romans are therefore seen as a tool by which the Jews kill Jesus by some, or at least partly guilty. I'm not advocating for this view, I'm explaining

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