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[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was thinking of a custom "Free Bullets with Every Forced Entry" sign.

[-] arin@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

They had military grade weapons .

[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't "military grade" mean from the cheapest bidder?

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Are their faces military grade?

[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] arin@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] vorpuni@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago

You can. It's illegal in your country. Just like breaking down your door without a warrant.

[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With the correct FFL you can.

Also there are Forced Reset Triggers.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

The agents had a search warrant for the home

[-] griff@lemmings.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

if the law is on their side, why are they wearing masks?

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I've been saying this too! Why not show your faces if you think you're doing the right thing?!?!?

[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, they had a writ from DHS it was not a valid warrant.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Source? I copied that from the article.

[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://www.employmentlawletter.com/2025/01/what-organizations-should-know-about-ice-enforcement-actions/

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/files/resources/ice_warrants_summary.pdf

DHS issues writs for ICE but since there is no court hearing these cases, there is no warrant that ICE can obtain. The DOJ has said there is no warrant required...which is spurious as that goes against the 4th amendment. ICE will call a writ a warrant, and often journalists will write what they're told. See these articles regarding a different arrest below

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ice+mahmoud&t=fpas&ia=web

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

That doesn't say anything about this case. Given it wasn't just ICE involved, it's possible that a judicial warrant was obtained.

[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is not a court that ICE has access to that will issue a valid warrant. This is why the DOJ just said it doesn't matter if there is a warrant or not. ICE is flagrantly defying the 4th amendment. That other case, ICE can be heard in a recording telling Mahmoud's wife that they have a warrant. Now they say that they never had/needed one in the first place.

The issue is that ICE cannot legally get a warrant for the people they are choosing to detain as they focus on families. The "dangerous criminals" that have real warrants, those are usually served/executed by the FBI, Marshalls, or local SWAT. I don't know if you live in the US like I do, but this is a pretty serious issue as again, these writs are not warrants, ICE does not have access to a warrant as that's not how our courts are set up nor is it how their department was set up.

Both of the resources I listed at the top of my response explain this in depth. The last link I shared was for context.

[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

Law enforcement officers have a duty of care. If they execute a no knock warrant at an address that is no longer valid and get shot in the process it is likely there would be no criminal culpability for the homeowner if it’s in a castle doctrine state.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Does lemmy have a sub for badlegaladvice? This comment feels like a prime candidate :)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

They're right, but only in a very theoretical sense. As in, it's true that you can legally shoot at officers who don't identify themselves in self-defense, but whether that's actually how things work in court is an entirely other matter.

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/10/1175268778/minneapolis-police-officer-felony-assault-black-man-george-floyd

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/08/us/kenneth-walker-breonna-taylor-dismissed-charges/index.html

[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

I didn’t realize I was giving legal advice. I was pointing out their duty of care based on the training and education I received while pursuing a bachelors degree for law enforcement.

Was there something specific you’re taking issue with or did you just want to snark?

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Wasn't there an executive order issued today that seemed to imply that wouldn't matter?

[-] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

If there was, I didn’t see it but as the Executive will find out if there was, it’s not up to them, it’s up to the Judicial.

The person currently occupying the White House is not a king. Much as he might like to believe otherwise.

I’m a law abiding citizen of the United States. If someone breaks into my home have every reason to believe they’re hostile and won’t hesitate to use deadly force to protect myself and my family.

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

is not a king

Even if be were called "King" rather than "President", the Constitution is still a thing. He can call himself whatever, really.

Funny thing is, many citizens of the US seem to have less rights and priviledges than subjects of the UK.

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just as there is no for cops murdering pretty much anyone for anything on the clock. "Standing your ground" to these bastards is plain playing with fire. If you're not perfectly white and very lucky, you'll be just signing your own death warrant.

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