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On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR "apology" (ironic)

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[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Regarding medical professionals and medical standards, how do you feel about Europe and some countries banning puberty blockers?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I would push back slightly on the term "ban".
The US has parties pushing for a ban, which entails it becoming a punishable offense to offer the treatment to children.
As far as I'm aware, European countries have shifted standards of care in response to changing data, and De-Emphasized the treatment in favor of other avenues.

European policies are notably different from the outright bans for adolescents passed in 22 U.S. states, some of which threaten doctors with prison time or investigate parents for child abuse. The European countries will still allow gender treatments for certain adolescents and are requiring new clinical trials to study and better understand their effects.

“We haven’t banned the treatment,” said Dr. Mette Ewers Haahr, a psychiatrist who leads Denmark’s sole youth gender clinic, in Copenhagen. Effective treatments must consider human rights and patient safety, she said. “You have to weigh both.”

Although I tend to align with the American academy of pediatrics, as long as it's a reasoned, evidence based conversation developing standards of care that are then applied by the care team working with the patient and their parents it seems appropriate to me. That leaves the standards of "good medicine" in the realm of public experts, and the specifics of treatment to the experts directly working with the person in question and let's them make the appropriate choices and consultation.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So you're fine with Europe blocking/changing/halting/modifying/specifying/altering/excluding the use of puberty blockers?

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That's a lot of verbs for a simple answer.

I'm fine with medical experts making medical decisions based on patient needs and scientific consensus.
Scientific consensus is currently in flux because recent studies have conflicted with earlier studies.
Advising that different treatment options take priority while additional research is done isn't wrong.

When elected officials and the general public start dictating what treatments people are allowed to get regardless of medical opinion or patient wishes I start to get concerned that it's less about patient care and more about public opinion.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That’s a lot of verbs for a simple answer.

You took offence at me using the wrong word.

But yeah, at the moment, more and more medical bodies are looking at the effectiveness of puberty blockers and deciding it's detrimental to health.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I took no offense, just explaining that there are too many verbs for me to say "yes" or "no", and so I couldn't reply to your yes or no question other than with a restatement of my feelings.

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