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Have you been to China?
I haven't. Please elaborate.
The Chinese people do not exist in a state of peace with the CCP, that political monstrosity is one of the many reasons why there has been a rush of Chinese citizens leaving the country. The pandemic fully exposed how destructive and nefarious the CCP is. First they denied it started in China, followed by a weak attempt to blame foreigners for covid-19. It ended with the CCP welding people into their homes, caging Chinese citizens and allowing human beings to literally starve to death.
While the Chinese government pushes a very nationalistic message, It really isn't pro-human in the slightest. The CCP top brass has been content to exploit the poverty of its populace in order to enrich themselves.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
Least delusional western man right here 😂 yea, the "CCP" is evil for being the most successful nation in dealing with the covid pandemic while good ol' free murica had 10x deaths with 5x less population.
You really don’t know what’s happening in China unless you speak to people who live there or have emigrated recently. Believing the lies spread by the CCP is not doing anybody any favorn. The Chinese people have already witnessed the collapse of their real estate sector, while the banking sector lurches from crisis to crisis, on any given day you will see another video of bank customers pleading for their money to be returned to them en masse. And now we have a crisis in the manufacturing sector, workers are being laid off and those left employed are seeing their wages cut if they get paid at all.
Aight gordon chang, china is on the verge of collapse!
Why should i be sad for foreign bondholders losing their investments? they've should've known better than having their savings on risky endeavors. This is explicitly the investors fault and the businesses fault, not the CPC, why should the CPC refund foreign investors with taxpayers money? It's great that the bubble popped and the gov didn't save investors, a clear example that in China you just can't fail upwards like in the US, foreign investors can cry crocodile tears all they want they ain't getting a penny. I can tell you parrot mainstream media coverage on this because of your uncritical support for investors.
Wait, you're blaming the "crisis in manufacturing" on China when it is the US the one causing a global trade war? Also, businesses going out of business is not automatically bad, it's fairly common everywhere. Inefficient businesses go out of business, it's as simple as that. Should the CPC be rescuing these businesses so westerners feel good about it?
And as a matter of fact, i speak with regular working class Chinese people that live on China on a weekly basis, most don't even care about the goverment, in my experience 90% of their talk is about doing business, the rest is about food, meanwhile westerners think the average chinese is fettered doing farm work lmao.
Where did I express sympathy for bond holders or claim that the collapse in the manufacturing was caused by one party?
Tiran la piedra y esconden la mano, typical westerner.
You are either very naive or very dishonest if you think that the CCP handled the pandemic well. It was their incompetence, tallied with their dishonesty that caused the spread to begin with.
Aight, now you're blaming China for the incompetence of others, at the same time you flirt about China being an authoritarian dystopia while also saying that they being too lax allowed a novel virus to spread, even if that were the case, how does this explain the massive difference in deaths between China and the US? What does it even matter where the virus came from if your country was unable to deal with it? Viruses do not have ideology or allegiances, they work exactly the same in China, the US or in Lesotho.
Compared to that (strictly enforced quarantine for sick people) the US not only failed to stem the spread of the pandemic, the president and his cult expressively espoused dangerous quack medicine.
Generally China organized regular food delivery to people in quarantine and had countless teams tracing infection. Meanwhile the US forced the "essential" lowest class workers to expose themselves and even encouraged their maga cult to spit on people to infect them.
Countless preventable deaths are the result, plus even more people with lowered mental faculties from Covid. And then you elected the same cult leader again!
I haven't been to China but that would only give you anecdotal stories. I also don't speak chinese or read chinese social media, but I can read statistics. But yeah, there is no "peace" but an uneasy acceptance of censorship in China.
Your reply falls in line with my beliefs. Does anyone else reading this have any rebuke?
https://lemmygrad.ml/post/7866691/6377974