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[-] Goretantath@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

I don't think raping is required to live..

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 12 points 1 month ago

To be fair he may not actually be a rapist. He calls himself "defiler of daughters", but he's doing so in a theatrically rogueish list of reasons people would want to kill him, so it could just as well be consensual but the parents are furious about it.

However even if that is the case, he actually is also a self-described murderer and thief who implies that he runs a dangerous gang of some sort and regularly has people trying to kill him

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He calls himself "defiler of daughters"

If that's all the rape stuff is based on, then it's very much the opposite of a rapist. Just like you said, a rogue. A romantic one at that.

It's an age old trope. Stealing the lord's gold and gems and giving his daughter one while you're at it, consentually, ofc.

Basically, like a reference to the Zorro stereotype.

Or a somewhat loose but direct reference to the Mask of Zorro, which wouldn't have been too old of a movie at that point. The time difference between Oblivion's release and the releases of Mask of Zorro was 8 years.

The Mask of Zorro 4K UHD - Zorro vs Elena Duel | High-Def Digest

So when Oblivion developers would've been working on it a few years earlier, it would have only been 5-6 years old.

Avengers Endgame came out six years ago.

Also Vasha is actually wearing a literal.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago

That's the only reference, yeah. The character is only present for one scene in one quest, and the only mention of his sexual exploits is that line. I certainly always interpreted him as a womaniser rather than a rapist

It's funny that you mention Zorro — the voice actor that does this character's lines (and also other male khajiit) has done parts to fill in for Antonio Banderas before

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