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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub -2 points 11 hours ago

Eh, the original version was basically pre-internet porn fanfic. Brothers Grimm cut out most of the x rated stuff. Disney cleaned it up further with a lot of bleach to get the smut and kink off and made it into movies.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Would love some sources on that.

To my knowledge, brothers Grimm collected them and put them into text, and they were all pretty fucking horrific. Some stuff is really graphic.

The question of why kids didn't mind comes up a lot and it had something to do with kids naturally not being able to empathize in cruelty and therefore able to basically emotionally detach from those parts. But I might be wrong on that, I don't have sources for this rn.

Anyway, because your comment is so very different, I'd love to be wrong and to read up on it.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 1 hour ago

Wikipedia:

The first volumes were much criticized because, although they were called "Children's Tales", they were not regarded as suitable for children, both for the scholarly information included and the subject matter.[3] Many changes through the editions – such as turning the wicked mother of the first edition in Snow White and Hansel and Gretel (shown in original Grimm stories as Hänsel und Grethel) to a stepmother, were probably made with an eye to such suitability. Jack Zipes believes that the Grimms made the change in later editions because they "held motherhood sacred".[4]

They removed sexual references—such as Rapunzel's innocently asking why her dress was getting tight around her belly, and thus naively revealing to the witch Dame Gothel her pregnancy and the prince's visits—but, in many respects, violence, particularly when punishing villains, became more prevalent.

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 44 minutes ago

Comic code before the USA

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

People had much less empathy than they do now. Steven Pinker talks about this in The Better Angels of Our Nature.

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