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For me, it was “saying no doesn’t make me a bad person.” I was raised around extremely Christian people who emphasized that you should be there for everyone, even at the expense of self.
The problem is, people eventually take advantage of you. Also, when you finally say “no” to them, they act as though you’re a terrible person.
https://youtu.be/XeRYuMEM_4k
To them, it looks like they are the only person to which you say no. This means that you say no because of them. People don't like being questioned like that.
Add some assurance that the no is not personal.
This is similar to "be a soldier and suck it up". I used to keep my objections to myself and go along with things. This doesn't make your feelings go away, instead it makes resentment build up along with passive aggression. I now speak up but do so reasonably nicely.
I had this recently. My parents wanted me to make a full hour round trip drive across town to pick them up in the middle of the night so they could save $50 on a taxi. I said no as I have kids to look after now, and my mom launched into how I'm not family first anymore and after all the things she did for me as a kid, she can't depend on me to pick her up.
I stuck to my guns though. They conned my brother with the same story, but I set a boundary.
Wow, the “family first” remark, while you’re taking care of your kids, gets me. That’s so familiar.
It’s as if people hearing “no” from you, when you would normally just cave in and do whatever was requested, is an act of aggression from people. It’s strange… they become so hateful.
Good on you for sticking with your boundaries!
Agree with the other commenter. If she ever pulls that line with you again make sure you throw it right back at her. "You're right, family first. That's my kids and my spouse." Maybe she'll start to realize the family shifts as you age.
I've experience this first hand, and watched it from the other side. My mother is extremely "Christian", and that's one of her phrases there. To her, people helping her became an expectation, not an act of kindness. She was a single mom, and so people around town would help her out. Like our local appliance guy, he'd give her a deal on a new dishwasher - and then she would push her luck and ask him to install it. And then start calling him directly when the slightest thing might be wrong with it. And then for other appliances. And then for random handiman stuff. She of course never repaid him for everything he did.
Because he's a Christian, and so was she. So of course he was "happy" to do it for her. A few people eventually did tell her no, and she would immediately convince herself that they were bad people and that she "had to cut them out of her life" because of the negativity.
Reading this shocks me. This is my own Catholic mom exactly! The phrase she always throws around is “family first”, and I’ve had to help her so many times of which she shows appreciation. But when I turn her down, she throws guilt trips at me and sometimes goes as far to suggest I don’t care. Despite setting boundaries for many years, she’ll still test the waters.
I try to remind myself that when I do say yes, they're never quite as happy/appreciative/etc. as I expected or hoped for.
I try to please the people but the people aren't even pleased, ugh.
"Yo, you could be at least a little happier and grateful about it, you know I could be {doing something else that I actually enjoy}, I'm just doing this for you!"
I felt this loaf