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Can we stop making fun of 9/11 here?
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The odds of a football game occurring are tied to the external conditions of a schedule. The odds of a plane crash occurring are tied to the external conditions of mechanics, atmosphere, and pilot error. If any of those three fail then it happens as surely as a scheduled football match. An organised attack would mean all plane crashes can potentially be attributed to that but we have clear documentation that they are caused by plenty of other things. You just ignore those potential causes in favour of the one that makes the most dramatic story.
That's what Camus called "philosophical suicide" because you're taking a leap of faith into the explanation which provides the most potential meaning to a chaotic system that lacks it. It's human nature to do so.
This is one of the worse bits I've seen you do and it's still pretty solid.
Still a work in progress. I have this beautiful vision of a Guy more infuriating than the confident flat earther.
I think the references like what I quoted elevate it so it feels less like just talking in circles. Depending on what you're going for, another (similar) technique is distracting yourself with overly-specific anecdotes that you were obviously fed by a conspiracy community or whatever media outlet would be most appropriate.
Trying to find new ways of framing it is the challenge. I like the anecdote strategy with the $100 bill and doubling down on nonsensical ways of proving random chance exists, but I need to somehow translate that into a conspiracy theory that disproves every other conspiracy theory and conspiracism in general. Rational gibberish while gaslighting them and pointing out all of the fallacies behind whatever they believe. It's a hard Guy to get right but I want to be able to do it completely deadpan any time people start talking about conspiracies or 9/11.
It just occurred to me that you could fill out the character by characterizing other events as freak accidents.
"This country was founded on that kind of slander, or do you believe the Boston Massacre wasn't caused by a rifle malfunction?"
Or freak accidents as being fabricated
"Conversely, the dude who shot Archduke Ferdinand had staked out the position but made up his excuse to try and get a lesser murder charge"
I already do that with JFK's assassination. Yes I believe Oswald was the lone gunman, yes I believe he fired three shots from the 6th floor of the Texas book depository, yes I believe two struck and killed Kennedy. However I think that was a complete freak accident. If I shot 100 times outside of my window I wouldn't hit a presidential motorcade. The odds of one passing by at that exact moment in that exact place are astronomically low. It's a tragic reminder that sometimes shit happens.