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I find this bleak in ways it’s hard to even convey
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Obviously no supports from a person who actually did some training AND can actually be effective at helping people deal with mental health is terrible. I'm glad Emma has an actual psychologist but obviously she seems like she isn't getting enough supports and so has turned to ChatGPT presumably because at $20 a month (or free, which gets turned into training data)
ChatGPT is no substitute. It is at most a funhouse mirror of exactly what you put in it along with whatever Sam Altman has figured out causes maximal engagement. It is the smooth pool of Narcissus. The passive reflection of your own emotion and experiences can be done without the sycophantic AI telling you you're a genius and whatever else obsequious mewling it's doing.
chatgpt collects training data even if you pay, I’m pretty sure
And the engagement loop is shockingly transparent but it captures people fairly well. It’s basically one of 3-5 responses (compliment you and prompt directly being the most common) with dozens of permutations of each so it feels a bit less “stiff”
I feel for this person but I also question what they want from treatment. They already have a psychologist. Obviously this is just an image so I don’t know anything more; maybe they can only see them monthly or something.
But in my work as a therapist I find there are a lot of people who want to increase services when what they really want is more social connection. I turn this down because it’s not ethical for me to take their money or bill their insurance for this and even if that wasn’t the case it ultimately just fosters dependence on me which is also not ethical. Instead we look at how we can enrich their social circle and this is unfortunately often difficult because of the whole “third space collapse” thing in the USA where public spaces for socialization are dead, based around alcohol, for young people, or cost prohibitive. I don’t have a great answer at this point (classic therapist, ha!)
I understand why people increasingly turn to the internet for socialization. But at least find actual people online and not robots that collect data on you to sell
I think the robot can be used for validating feelings if you're in a panic spiral or something and need something to turn to instantly. Not much else. Using it with an actual therapist/psychologist seems fine to me. Using it without it would def validate maladaptive behaviours.
I can't really blame people for not turning to like, online support groups instead, since every online support group i've tried just ended up being uber gatekeep-y