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Can we stop making fun of 9/11 here? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by GottiGoFast@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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That was one of the biggest tragedies in recorded history. Do you even know what it did to the economy? It was like Black Monday on a 5x multiplier.

The World Trade Center, keyword TRADE. This isn't pokemon shit, this is real-world stocks and dollars. The portfolios were ruined.

The next time you laugh at that, think about the human beings that had their vacation bonuses decimated that day. Think about how the economic blow made countries like China catch up to us. Just think about that.

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[-] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

What do you call 2000 dead businessmen? A good start.

[-] FrozenH@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

So you want all businessmen, firemen, EMTs/Paramedics, secretaries, receptionists, janitors to be executed because of their complicit support of capitalism and NATO imperialism?

[-] Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, Just the bourgeoisie.

Not sure where you got the idea that we'd wish harm to our fellow proletariat simply for providing indiscriminate aid in a crisis.

[-] FrozenH@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What do you call 2000 dead businessmen? A good start.

I just find this very reductive. Just because someone was working in the WTC doesn't make them the bourgeoisie. Maybe I don't understand class distinction well (actually I know I don't), but I find takes like these wild and dehumanizing.

[-] iie@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

on hexbear we kind of play up our 9/11 banter to contrast with the way most westerners talk about the event. It's just frustrating when people seem to not give a shit what came before or after 9/11 and have no perspective on the magnitude of suffering we have caused. Around 4.5 million people have died due to America's post-9/11 wars. Countless more died from all the shit we stirred up in the decades prior. We also funded, armed, and trained the same dudes who attacked us. The whole fucking thing is blowback, but most westerners either don't know or don't care.

[-] FrozenH@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the context and the link to the report. I definitely agree with most of what you said, the damage that America has caused is magnitudes more than 9/11 and actions taken by America continue to contribute to radicalization. I can see why someone would say that America deserved 9/11, but I guess what doesn't sit right with me is joking that the actual individuals impacted by 9/11 deserved it or trivializing their deaths. Just like the people who were impacted by Americas unjustified actions in the Middle East didn't deserve it. I do share the frustration though, so thanks for the response.