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[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Virtually every sentient life experiences a non-zero amount of suffering. Progeny that doesn’t exist categorically doesn’t suffer; progeny that does exist is virtually certain to suffer to some degree. The hedonist argument that progeny may get to experience some joy falls apart because progeny that doesn’t exist categorically doesn’t experience any lack of joy (i.e. that would-be joy is not mourned by that which does not exist).

Ensuring the certainty of the sum total of suffering in another person’s life just for one’s own self-fulfillment is incredibly selfish. Procreation is a cycle of blithe selfishness that perpetuates universal suffering and is at best wrought by apathy for others’ suffering and at worst wrought by enthusiasm for others’ suffering.

I’m anti-kid because I didn’t consent to the sentience that I have experienced and I have the empathy to want others not to suffer.

[-] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 0 points 2 months ago

I’m anti-kid because I didn’t consent to the sentience that I have experienced and I have the empathy to want others not to suffer.

Maybe you should find the empathy to see that your experience is not everyone's experience, then?

[-] Squorlple@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Refer to the first sentence of my comment.

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Non 0 amount of suffering is a meaningless statement.

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