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HEY CHUMPS! Y'ALL GOT PLAYED BY A CONMAN! MUSK AND TRUMP DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT ANY OF YOU! MAYBE THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ANY FUTURE ELECTIONS, HUH?
RICH PEOPLE ARE NOT GENEROUS. IF THEY WERE GENEROUS THEY WOULDN'T BE RICH PEOPLE. THEY ARE THE OPPOSITE OF GENEROUS.
Isn't it illegal to pay for voting and to be paid? Or, is it just illegal to pay for votes?
Not if you're among the ultra-rich. Supreme Court has decided that rules are for the poors.
I know the former is, but not sure if the recipient is on the hook or not.
That's because he didn't say he will pay them for voting. He said he would pay them to sign a petition that supported a certain candidate. I think that's technically not illegal?
Wasn't there a lottery of a million dollars or something? Pretty sure that was for votes. What I'm hearing is, he won't be charged or prosecuted for anything, legal or not.
Nah the lottery wasn't actually a lottery because it came out that the winners were already picked. Because apparently you're not allowed to run a lottery whenever you want without asking the government.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-says-1-million-election-giveaway-wasnt-an-illegal-lottery-2025-01-26/
That seems like "a dog ate my homework" kind of answer to that. So a better headline would be:
Elon Musk committed fraud in rigged lottery at illegal vote persuasion event
My answer was facetious.
But if he did something illegal and hasn't been prosecuted for it that means it's not illegal?
Okay, lmao. That's hilarious.
That's my understanding as well. "Sleezy but not technically illegal" is pretty on-brand for Musk.
No one gives a shit anymore
The average American hasn't yet realized the benefits, or consequences, of our newly instituted unfettered lawlessness.
My understanding is that it potentially isn't illegal, because you weren't being paid to vote explicitly, and weren't being paid to vote for a specific candidate for sure, but you were (supposed to be) paid to sign an agreement that you would vote, and I think it also said you support a certain candidate but I'm not totally sure on that.
Basically, he was paying for people to say they'd vote (maybe for a certain candidate) but legally that wasn't actually required, so possibly barely skirts the law if a judge is being very generous to him.
Not if you also pay all the people who would enforce that law
I know right? Whatever would have given them the idea that he has ever done anything he's promised? All the failed promises with Tesla? The boring company?
@admiralpatrick@lemmy.world The spam ban on the OP of this post seems heavyhanded (at least from the outside). Can you review or offer additional context?
E: this seems to (maybe) be the reason for anyone else wondering https://lemmy.world/post/29949200/17158534
I can DM the mod who issued it.
Additional context: https://lemmy.world/comment/17158534
TL;DR is the account has a history of leaving spam-like posts in its wake. Instead of deleting posts, they edit the title and URL to gibberish and leave them up. The comment I linked above is me asking OP to not do that (at least in this community), so they have been warned. Looks like they left two more gibberish posts early this morning which is likely what triggered the other mod to issue the community ban.
Per the comment I linked, I'm assuming that is why OP has been banned from so many other communities.
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Edit: Typo
That makes total sense. Tyvm for the transparency <3.