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The amount of people just posting evidence of them being entirely unable to drive a car with 0 consequences is insane. Great compilation of you raging out over somebody going 5 below the limit, phone in hand in the drivers seat. Really liked when you got stuck behind a lorry for 20 seconds and were frothing at the mouth over it. You're never getting your license back.

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[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

also bump up the testing standard from rock bottom up to bus driver level
it's a multi-ton piece of machinery, wild how easy it is to get licensed in the first place

[-] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

wild how easy it is to get licensed in the first place

many people would not be able to live because of car dependent shitholes being car dependent.

[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

and many people who are killed by bad drivers would not be dead
someone loses either way but i'm on the side of not letting people loose in public with dangerous machinery when they aren't qualified to operate it safely

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

Stricter requirements and more efficient enforcement would also have a preventative effect. Once people realise that they can get in real trouble for driving like assholes they will drive better.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

you have to account for the excess deaths of people you make homeless if you just say fuck 'em like that

[-] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

i already did
i fall on the side of needing to be able to operate a dangerous machine safely before you are allowed to do so in public where you can maim or kill others through incompetence

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

I unironically think this is a good way to reduce demand for cars and roads. Pitch more stringent lisencing standards every time someone complains about a bad driver. People all have the idea that everyone else is a shit driver, so prey on that exceptionism by insisting they should have the road to themselves.

Then slide into mass transit. Say people still need to work and that this would make sure all the terrible drivers they see on the road don't NEED cars

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

if you just do the strict licensing you just get a pile of unlicensed uninsured drivers.

it needs to roll out after transit is available

Yeah I drove unlicensed for a year anf my gf for 3 years because, surprise surprise, we still needed to go to work

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Stricter lisencing is a foot in the door in terms of persuasion, but yeah, transit first is better for implementation.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've not ridden in the US, being a small german boy, but I don't exactly get the feeling better testing is the solve here if you never even do anything about this afterwards.

A common idea in germany is pedestrians and cyclists, including small children, are "forcing their right of way" and it's kind of their fault if they get hit because they get the short end of the stick of being hit by a car. The judiciary might punish you, in a car, hallucinating a traffic light being green while it is red and running over a small child with up to 3 months of a driving ban you can contest.

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