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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Very, very different scope:

"We need to ensure Canada's law enforcement is equipped with the tools they need to stay ahead of organized crime groups and crack down on their illicit activities."

[-] azi@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Totally different from when Trump talks about cartels /s

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

That's exactly the justification Trump made to start unleashing ICE

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

Pretty true point, bad argument (as others have pointed out).

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Yes but that's all lip service to Trump's wild claims of Canada and Mexico being hotbeds and the source of all drugs, criminals, dark skinned people, etc. To even acknowledge that clown's claims in their language is to let them set the agenda. Canada can and should do what it wants at its border but not with a fucking patriot act style national security giveaway.

Just remember, once it's there, it's there for any future admin. This was written for Trump and by industry lobbiests in CA who would benefit from decreased tarrifs and/or security/weapons/data companies that want far contracts.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Hmm. I didn't read it like that. To me, since the source of many of our issues with drugs and guns come from the States, we need to protect our borders from Americans, not for Americans.

And since organized crime, and not "immigrants", are the problem, it seems like that's who we are addressing.

Sounds to me like Canada is doing what's best for Canada, not Trump. I guess we'll see how these new powers are put into effect.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

Their point (well, part of it anyway) is that whatever the government says, there's no guarantee that the powers provided to the government by this bill will only be applied to organized crime, or that it'll stay that way. "America doing what's best for America" got them ICE.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

We are better than that. At least, I hope and trust that we are.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Hope and trust will only take you as far as your politicians are willing to play along. Trump happened to the United States, but demagogues with great aspirations and a willingness to bend rules to (and beyond) the breaking point are by no means unique to them.

Which is to say: make it legally binding instead of relying on the goodwill of politicians.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Trump happened to the United States

I would argue that Americans knew for decades that he was a piece of shit. Why they continued to vote for him is something for psychology professors to explain.

I hope that Canada never becomes that ignorant, and my worry for the future isn't really with our politicians, but more with our shifts as individuals.

Where I live, we've got a resurgence of violence towards visible minorities, and racist graffiti going up in public places (libraries, etc.). My concern is that a growing number of bad people will vote for bad politicians, not that good people will vote for bad politicians.

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