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In the end, The Hill lied and Harris was right.
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We did continue down that path, and it brought us back to another Trump presidency - not permanent solutions. Fascism was the only place that path was ever going to lead.
We have been hearing constantly about slow and steady progress for 60 years of the hollowing out of the middle class. It's not fucking working. Not materially in people's lives, and not politically.
It was Clinton who signed NAFTA. It was Clinton who said "The era of big government is over" as he dismantled federal safety net programs and broke unions. It was Obama who put the impact of the mortgage crisis on the backs of homeowners and bailed out Wall Street. (Then collected millions in speaking fees from Wall Street firms within weeks of leaving office). It was Obama who sidelined real healthcare reform and put in a right wing healthcare system that guaranteed cost increases of 10-15% every damn year.
Biden was a modest improvement, but nothing will forgive his slavish devotion to a genocidal Israel.
Democrats threw the trans community under the bus. They threw immigrants under the bus. Time after time they surrender to Republican framing then wonder why Republicans keep winning.
Know how Hillary got the DNC to put a finger on the scale for her campaign? She bailed them out of near bankruptcy. Why were they bankrupt? Obama funneled money that used to go to the party into his own campaign coffers. That's how he won a second term while losing Congress. Overall, the Democrats lost over a thousand state and federal seats in the 8 years of his presidency.
This isn't all about the big bad Republicans. It's not all about stupid voters. Republicans are no better or worse than they ever were, and voters are no dumber. Democratic leadership has a lot to answer for as well. Quit trying to shield them from the change that desperately needs to happen.
Your opinions are bad, and you should feel bad.
Yeah, the Democrats have actually been doing everything right and have just had a string of bad luck. Bad dice roles on their voter generator. There is no reason for them to reevaluate or change anything. /s
Which is what no one is saying whatsoever, but enjoy your delusional reality. It sounds like a really good time for you.
I've got news for you. The entire party leadership is desperately trying to prevent any change whatsoever.
Dude. No one is disagreeing with that. We know the democrats also suck. It’s your ‘whataboutism’ that everyone is taking issue with. You’re not even having the right argument right now.
What? You just disagreed with that. Fuckin-a
Yeah. Democrats are saying that they need to move even further to the right. To the point of working with elon the nazi.
Trumps votes barely changed from 2020 to 2024. Whay changed is 8 million less people voted for Kamala tban Biden.
We did not follow the path, we abandoned the DNC and that is why we have fascism.
The Democrats lost ground with every demographic but college educated women. 2020 was an unusually high turnout election. 2024 was a regression to the mean, yet Trump's vote total went up.
Blaming the voters is just electoral masturbation. It doesn't lead anywhere. Do you have a plan to get better voters in 2028? Blaming voters is for politicians that don't care about winning. In other words, it's for establishment Democrats.
My plan is that hopefully enough people get their memory jogged to decide Trump really is a shit candidate who makes literally everything worse.
Also promote the Democrats with logic and reason, and volunteer.
Your plan is the same plan the establishment uses in every single election. It's the definition of insanity.
There is nothing else. If reason consistently loses to animalistic selfishness then this entire species is doomed.
Hmmm, "There is nothing else". I'm rolling that around in my head and I just can't figure out how that doesn't imply that Democrats ran the best campaign they could.
It's just reality that people need more than competent administrators. They need inspiration and they need leaders. Republicans inspire hate and lead people to ignorance. Democrats inspire nobody and lead them nowhere. Then Democrats whine that they can't win because people are ignorant and hateful.
You cannot win elections by just being a more competent manager. Most voters aren't competent enough to even recognize it. That's how voters have always been. It's nothing new.
To imply the Democrats could run a better campaign is to say that Trump was a better choice. We need people to wake the fuck up and remove the biggest problem first and foremost.
The Democrats could have run a far better campaign against Trump than they did. Trump was not a better choice, but he did run a better campaign.
If you want people to "wake the fuck up" then you need Democratic leadership that isn't intent on putting them to sleep. The establishment doesn't like it's citizens awake.
The DNC abandoned us and expected unconditional votes.