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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by MissJinx@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Do the army support the president even if his orders are against your constitution? How is the overll clima and feeling today?

Just asking because I'm curious, I have no horse in this race :)

Edited to Armed forces since thats exactly what I ment

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[-] plyth@feddit.org 13 points 2 days ago

Don't use the Zimbardo prison experiment. From your link:

Certain critics have described the study as unscientific and fraudulent.[6][7] In particular, Thibault Le Texier has established that the guards were asked directly to behave in certain ways in order to confirm Zimbardo's conclusions, which were largely written in advance of the experiment.

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

That just makes it worse! (From my point of view here.) People behaving reprehensibly because an authority figure asked them to do it? That's just the Milgram experiment, but without any apparent hesitation!

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm going to repeat what @plyth said. "Don't use the Zimbardo prison experiment".
Zimbardo was as manipulative as the psychologists from the Robbers Cave experiment,
with the only difference being that the former was only done once, while in the latter,
the subjects figured out that they were being manipulated and turned against the psychologists.

Because of this, the conclusions Zimbardo drew himself are very different from when you conclude that
Zimbardo was behind the whole ordeal pulling the strings.
One only needed to stand up against one person, not a crowd.

this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
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