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[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago

This is good awareness to raise. The US can and should do better, on this metric.

Needlessly leaving people in poverty isn't just unethical, it's foolish.

[-] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago

ok but the reason this is happening is because the communists liquidated the bourgeoisie

J/s don't just vaguely support outcomes, support the steps needed to achieve them

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

don't just vaguely support outcomes, support the steps needed to achieve them

Some of us need to start by building agreement on the outcomes.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Most people agree poverty is bad, and less poverty is good. The real essense of the conversation is on what steps to take. Simply having a desire for an outcome doesn't bring it about, but, say, using a Socialist economy to target poverty as something to be eliminated via key infrastructure development, job creation, and social services, as China has done, does.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago

People need effective, enforced, predictable laws that target infrastructure development, job creation, and social services.

Americans are deeply indoctrinated against "socialism".

We're better of calling any planned reform a regulated law bound economy with targets for equitable opportunities.

The billionaires will hate it just as much, but the rest of the population might have an easier time considering it.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

My point is that what should happen in an ideal world doesn't necessarily happen. We can't get the DNC to transition to a Socialist platform, their donors are the bourgeoisie. Even if 90% of USians support Socialism, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect, without siezure of the state and replacing with a proletarian-run state, such a re-orientation of the economy is impossible. The policy in bourgeois republics reflects the will and needs of Capital, and by extension the acolytes that worship it, the bourgeoisie.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Not as long as America remains capitalist, it can't and won't.

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