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Banned over fish joke
(lemmy.sdf.org)
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
Relevant comms
lemmy fixes admin abuse, not mod abuse.
It doesn't "fix" admin abuse either - see feddit.org situation. It only helps with admin abuse as the bans apply to part of the universe rather that to the entire Lemmy.
Yes, that's how it fixes it. You cannot be banned from lemmy, only individual servers.
That is not "fixing". It is partial remedy.
The alternative would be taking away power from instance owners, which is its own form of abuse.
The only 'problem' here is that most communities are proud to abuse their power when it suits them.
The solution is to make more communities that do not abuse their power. Unfortunately, people are afraid to do that because the abusive instances with threaten to "defederate" from instances that do not share the same agendas.
Life isn't perfect.
Sadly.
If it were perfect for you, how many more would find it intolerable? Ideally, we can live and let live. Life isn't ideal, either.
I think it's as much of a fix as is possible. If your problem is the owner or admin of the server your best solution is to leave. On reddit that meant leaving reddit. On lemmy it means you have to find another instance
My understanding is it works slightly differently.
It means that all users of an instance which banned you won't be able to see your comments even if these are made on another instance. It therefore stops you from participating with all the users of the instance which banned you, even on other instances.
Thus my comment about the limited remedy.
How is it only a partial remedy?
Because you still can be banned across individual servers so multiple communities, sometimes very large - and there isn't anyone who can unban you when it happens.
I don't see any solution to that that doesn't end up horribly.
I do.
Admins should have an ability to unban but not to ban people so essentially to control moderators but not to be moderators themselves. Moderators shouldn't be allowed to moderate more than a couple of communities.
Alternatively "membership" of Lemmy would be conditional upon acceptance of appeal process where admins of different instance(s) would decide if someone should be unbanned.
The second part is almost completely impossible to do.
Difficult, yeah. Impossible, no. It could be one of conditions of using the software. But I am not claiming it is easy.
Lemmy's license forbids doing this.
Other software could be developed to use it instead.
If so that obviously would have to change first.
And the other point?
Eh?
Other people making compatible software with no such license.
Ah. I don't know enough about it to comment. I was under impression that Lemmy is THE software but I may be wrong.
Lemmy uses a protocol called activitypub, which any software can add support for.
piefed and mbin are other compatible softwares.