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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren't attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we'll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

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[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

It honestly feels nice because the activity feels human and not just spammy low-effort comments 0:

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is one of the main things keeping a lot of us around I think. It's not just repost bots of shit I've seen 5 times in a month.

[-] regalia@literature.cafe 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, still we lack variety because our algo doesn't do a good job of promoting smaller communities. I'd like a lot more niche subs get more popular rather then our few dozen or so that have gotten big, which is still a good thing don't get me wrong.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That I agree with, the other thing that kills me is multiple communities of the same topic just in different servers.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Same here, I think I'll open a thread about that in the coming days

[-] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 0 points 1 year ago

@regalia
> our algo doesn’t do a good job of promoting smaller communities

Lemmy has an algo for that?

@SupraMario

[-] regalia@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago

No, the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page. It should be tweaked so smaller ones pop up more often. Reddit solved that somehow, I don't know what they changed though.

[-] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@regalia
> the algo for active/hot favor large communties, so smaller ones tend not to show up on the front page

I presume it's the same as what determines which posts appear on the front page of a Mastodon server; chronological order of posts. That would favour the larger communities, since people post there more often.

The other limiting factor, I presume, is a Lemmy server only knows about the communities its accounts are members of. Larger communities will have members on more servers.

[-] regalia@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago

Huh? Are you replying from Mastodon right now lol

[-] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 0 points 1 year ago

@regalia
> Are you replying from Mastodon right now

Yes. Here's the post you just replied to, on the public-facing web page of the Mastodon server I use:

https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/110943135468924731

[-] regalia@literature.cafe 0 points 1 year ago

I can tell lol, especially when you mentioned Mastodon's recent post first timeline. Lemmy is very, very different. I recommend actually looking at what it looks like on the site, it's extremely different then how it looks on mastodon.

[-] strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz 0 points 1 year ago

@regalia
> I recommend actually looking at what it looks like on the site, it’s extremely different then how it looks on mastodon

Yes, I'm familiar. I've been following Lemmy development for several years, as part of research for fediverse.party. That's the background to my comments about the algorithm determining what appears on a Lemmy front page.

If you're proposing that there's a more complicated algorithm at work, what do you think it is?

[-] regalia@literature.cafe 1 points 1 year ago

I believe "active" sort has comments bump put an entire post, which has many threads inside it. Not sure if time factors into it. The "hot" algo is slightly more complicated that factors in votes and then time will heavily decrease it from appearing on the front page. Both algos punish smaller communities as they're not going to be as active or have nearly as much votes.

[-] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

V true. I will say seeing the same post across 5 instances does make me feel like I'm going crazy sometimes so I guess it's a tradeoff xD

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I feel that you underestimate how stubborn I can be with low effort comments. I've been making off color, not particularly funny attempted witty comebacks on BBSes, the Internet, and then the World Wide Web for longer than... Oh, it's been since the early 90's now. Lemmy is the latest stomping grounds and I'm not giving up here just yet.

this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2023
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