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every single one of those 10 photos is literally just women going about their day and the comments is nothing but gooners shocked to learn that iran has hot women too, and now that their attractive women arent covering up, suddenly westoids see the humanity in these people.

every “(middle eastern country) isnt as bad as we’re told” post on the default reddits is exactly like this. on the flip side there’s the “look, (middle eastern country) used to have lots of hot women til islam came along!” posts about afghanistan etc

just seems disgusting to me. they don’t care at all about these people. they’re just fantasizing that maybe somehow they can take advantage of global tensions and somehow end up with a hot iranian wife

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[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

You think if you asked the woman in the top left to dress like the native American (I'm assuming that person is native American) that she would do so if she had the freedom to do it? I think you're imposing your views on someone from a WILDLY different walk of life. The people in the top left are usually devout people who would be horrified at the idea of dressing in revealing attire.

no i think top left might want to wear trousers or something

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

There are nuns today who dress similarly to that; they have all the freedom in the world to wear trousers but they don't. Puritanical society saw an entire nation of people (both men and women) who chose to dress in such a manner because they were very religious; yes there must have been women who wanted to dress otherwise, but this was the average because they came from very devout societies. Studying history you find people were just extremely different to how people are today; their views were just radically different. Were there individuals who wanted to wear trousers? Surely, but the majority believed this was how they were supposed to dress.

Was anyone forcing them (men and women) to go to church? To pray? No, they chose this for themselves because they were genuinely devout and it reflected in their lives. Heck, whoever was supposedly forcing them, who was forcing those people? These are people from a vastly different lifestyle compared to today.

Nuns are the perfect example; they have the freedom today to dress in trousers and to get an office job, but they choose the life they do because their views are just wildly different to our own.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

yes there must have been women who wanted to dress otherwise,

and how would they be treated if they chose to do so? that's my fucking point. there are/were true believers in these communities, just as there are iconoclasts, and there is/was a spectrum of conformists who might choose something else if it wasn't for the rigid structure limiting their imagination. that latter group too, is oppressed, even if they don't see or mind the chains (but going to far is how you get e.g. the france thing or a hypothetical where not only is nudity decriminalized but pants are outlawed)

Nuns are a terrible example because they're not forced into that by the dominant culture.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago

there are/were true believers in these communities, just as there are iconoclasts, and there is/was a spectrum of conformists who might choose something else if it wasn't for the rigid structure limiting their imagination.

I guess the difference here is that I genuinely believe the true believers were the norm; true believers both men AND women. As for the rigid structure limiting the imagination of the conformists, even today we have structures of our own limiting our own imaginations and we're content with these, just as they were content with their own structure. The meme reflects the average lady back in puritan times, not the iconoclast.

Nuns are a terrible example because they're not forced into that by the dominant culture.

You're right that they're not forced into that choice by the dominant culture, and with that freedom of choice what choice are they making? They're not being forced into this choice and they're choosing to live like this, what then do you think when you have a puritanical society where everyone is that devout?

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