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Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

I'm curious about how far this goes.

You can't get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.

But it seems that in the US, there's little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?

Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?

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[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

That's not what "at-will employment" means. It's an agreement between employer and employer that they agree to employment, and they both have the right to terminate for any or no reason. I have fired employees and been fired myself by employers based on this. Why use "false pretenses " when you don't have to. "You're fired." 'Why?" "Because you are." End of story.

[-] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

The problem is you legally don't have the right to "terminate for any reason" when it comes to a number of protected classes, but these laws make it so we have to rely on you being stupid enough to create a massive trail of evidence (easy part with small business tyrants), but also litigate it for potentially years on end - harder

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

You're wrong. Employers do have the right to terminate members of a protected class as long as it's not because they are a protected class.

[-] flan@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

and they both have the right to terminate for any or no reason

except there's a bit of a power dynamic here isn't there

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

There doesn't have to be. I don't see or treat it that way. Yes, my employer has power over me (I'm not a business owner). As do I over them, to an extent. But it doesn't have to be an adversarial relationship.

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