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[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 45 points 2 months ago

Natural numbers include zero

That is a divisive opinion and not actually a fact

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's a matter of convention rather than opinion really, but among US academia the convention is to exclude 0 from the naturals. I think in France they include it.

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

positive interers with addition are not a monoid though, since the identity element of addition is 0

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago
[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

I hope that explains everything

[-] lengau@midwest.social 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I find it easier to just accept the terminology of natural numbers and whole numbers so we have simple names for both.

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