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[-] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

"It can happen to ANY family by ANY breed of dog! 1"

They make it sound like bull dogs of all varieties - and other fighting dogs bred for many generations for aggressive traits - are just really unlucky, that they keep showing up at the top of the stats for child murder and mauling.

Only unlucky ones are the kids who have parents dumb enough to risk their lives with killer breeds in the house. I truly feel for them.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

All those yorkshire terriers out there killing kids… smh

[-] shiftymccool@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

Fighting dogs are generally animal aggressive, not human aggressive. In the old days of dog fighting, biting humans was a dog-destroying offense. Don't want that trait if you have to be hands-on with the dog for hours at a time training.

Also, the media has fixated on pit bulls (American Staffordshire Terrier) as the de facto bad guy so, no matter the breed involved, it will most likely be reported as a pit bull.

Have a read and see if your opinion gets altered any: https://worldanimalfoundation.org/dogs/nanny-dog/

[-] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i give you points for not derailing the conversation with accusations that all anti-pitbull sentiments are based on racism, at least, but to be honest a source largely citing people like “the president of the staffordshire-terrier club” and calling pit bulls “nanny dogs” is not likely to persuade anyone with a brain, let alone people already decided on being anti-pitbull.

i would personally consider myself anti-pitbull but that’s because i live in a town fucking overrun with them and can see that they definitely don’t behave like normal dogs on the regular. obviously we can’t just kill every single pit bull out there tho, i don’t know what the solution is. we should be putting people illegally backyard breeding pit bulls with shitty aggression issues that will never be able to be house pets straight into jail instead of slapping them on the wrist and allowing this problem to continue.

others have already pointed this out, but, do you have an actual reasoning in response to the fact that pit bulls are massively overrepresented in dog attack and fatality statistics?

i understand you mean “the media has fixated on pit bulls…” as this response, and it’s a cute thesis, but it really doesnt hold up to scrutiny; without even going into the semantics of this argument - even if we accept this idea as true (it isn’t), the sheer amount that pit bulls are represented in dog attack & fatality statistics would… still handily prove anti-pit bull people’s point that these dogs are clearly more dangerous than other breeds. it’s literally just that staggeringly much higher than any other dog breed, there is no rational explanation other than that pit bulls are more aggressive and/or more capable of damage than other dogs.

using wikipedia as a source, as i know pro-pit bull people love to argue over the veracity of sources like the dog bite website, you can see that

Tracking by the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) determined that pit bull type dogs were most likely to be involved in fatal attacks, accounting for 28% of fatalities from 1979 to 1998.[3] The AVMA documented 66 human fatalities caused by pit bull type dogs, 39 by Rottweilers, 17 by German shepherds, 15 by husky type dogs, 12 by Malamutes, 9 by Dobermann Pinschers, 8 by Chow Chows, 7 by Great Danes, and 7 by St. Bernarddogs.

keep in mind this is just from 1979 to 1998, so it doesnt include the 2000’s where pit bulls ownership in america really started to take off, making post-2000 statistics on this look even fucking worse for pit bulls, by a larger margin, as the promulgance of the breed and people like you who aren’t aware of the danger has starkly increased pitbull attacks from an already very high number. think about that. before pit bulls even had their most recent wave of popularity they accounted for about 1/3 more fatalities than the next most fatal breed, rottweilers. that’s fucking staggering and should in any reasonable world shut down further discussion or any sort of whataboutism like “wHy dOn’T wE BAn roTtWeiLeRs tOo???”

you know why nobody is advocating banning rottweilers in a serious political coalition too… at least, i sure hope you do. it’s real obvious to the rest of us.

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