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[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 66 points 3 days ago

If high speed rail becomes popular, all that stands between the current freedom and ID-required tickets and fingering by agents is one terrorist attack, staged or not.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago

What are you going to do with a hijacked train? The moment you hijack it they’ll just shutdown power. Hostages? Good luck there are like 30 carts on the train all of which have window break tools and emergency door open tools.

Look at Germany or France. High speed trains are everywhere and there is no ID requirement beyond maybe a ticket check if you’re unlucky.

[-] remon@ani.social 15 points 3 days ago

What are you going to do with a hijacked train? The moment you hijack it they’ll just shutdown power. Hostages? Good luck there are like 30 carts on the train all of which have window break tools and emergency door open tools.

It has been done before ...

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

Only for Eurostar and some other international trains you get some checks when boarding, especially since Brexit.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago

There's barely any checks they basically glance at your passport and go, yep you have a passport, you can pass.

Presumably if there was an arrest warrant out for you there's a chance they might do something, but then again they are French so you'd have to catch them at a good time.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago

Yes indeed if you want to be safe book a train that leaves between 12:00 and 14:00 that's when they're at the bistrot for lunch.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Who said anything about hijacking? Think explosives etc.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Or driving it into a sky scraper !!!

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

What if the train is the size of Chrysler building? 🤯

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Ok. Thinking explosives. Where are high speed trains being attacked by explosives? I don’t hear much in Germany, France, China, or Japan.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Don't jinx it.

My point is once a terrorist attack happens, there will be TSA like checks for getting on high speed trains.

My city (Mumbai) has seen multiple local train bombings so the newly built metro lines have baggage scanner at the entry.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago

Don't jinx it.

As I said in another reply, too late, by twenty-one years.

And yet, no TSA-like bullshit.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Commuter trains aren’t high speed trains though.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago

True (though the AVE also stops at Atocha, as it did back in 2004).

They also tend to carry more passengers, which means the number of victims was significantly larger than if it had been an AVE.

And yet, your prediction of a nine-eleven-like security theater didn't come to pass. 🤷‍♂️

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I never predicted 9/11 security theater. That was someone else. I was saying the opposite. It isn’t needed and won’t happen.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 4 points 3 days ago

Those countries arent full of Americans though. If a thing exists Americans will try to attack it.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 days ago

Madrid, 2004.

Didn't cause security theater, though. 🤷‍♂️

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Those are dense packed commuter trains from more than 20 years ago. Sort of the opposite of comfortable high speed long distance trains now days.

If you search for “bomb train” you’ll get results but it might be worth looking deeper than the headline.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago

Those are dense packed commuter trains from more than 20 years ago

So, even fucking worse when it comes to number of victims.

If you search for “bomb train” you’ll get results

I don't need to search for it, it was all over the news for months.

And yet, we got over it.

[-] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

We’re taking about high speed trains here. Independent of that, regarding attacks on commuter trains getting over it without American style tsa is a good thing.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Somebody didn't watch Christophe Lambert's The Hunted...

[-] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 4 points 3 days ago
[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Was that the one with the Apple Newton sending a fax?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago

What do you mean there's already been terrorist attacks on trains but nobody really cares because it's a train.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Shhh! It's an american, he can't comprehend high speed trains.

They are already wildly popular in diverse regions in europe btw.

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

Who, me? The furthest west I've been was Wales.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Sorry, I thought someone who didn't know speedtrains aren't already wildly popular, and has already been targeted by terrorists must be american. Take that as you like 😉

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 3 days ago

one terrorist attack

Had one in 2004, didn't result in security theater (though its mishandling did almost certainly result in the ruling party losing the election).

[-] remon@ani.social 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We don't even have that stuff on flights here (at least within Schengen). On my last 4 flights I had to show my ID once and the security check is just standing in the scanner thing for a second.

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago

I never had actual cavity search but it varies within Shengen. Germany is the least pleasant, always some problem. Last time they insisted on searching a preschooler.

I'm sure they'd finger you if you asked nicely, and have showered recently.

[-] oldfart@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I hope they don't find any lump

Are you sure? There's at least one lump I hope they find, but it's kind of deep up in there.

[-] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

in china there are similar security checks for high speed rail

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Has to harm billionaire asset to matter. Killing the rest of us is a game billionaires already enjoy and would applaud the Panem twist of a visiting team

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