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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Nazis were a political movement and party in WW2 Germany. The people who hate black people and Jews these days do not align at all with that party. There's actual terms like Neonazi which is rare as well, or White Supremacist. The problem with using Nazi to define anybody currently is that in most online spaces a Nazi is not somebody who wants to exterminate the Jews and create a white world, but somebody you just disagree with and think is mean.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So when men march wearing black balaclava and waving actual nazi flags, calling themselves nazis and intimidating vulnerable minorities with violence, you don't call them Nazis? Really?

Edit: This is neither hypothetical nor a unique occurrence

[-] PaulieDied@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Bah.. you can argue semantics all day long, I have no qualm calling these alt-right fucks nazis. Just look at the dumpsterfire that voat.co became. Nazis comes close enough to describe that.

[-] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will never tire of people who do not grasp linguistics trying to be pedantic about words.

In a living language, words mean whatever people currently use them to mean. This is how "literally" literally doesn't mean "literally" anymore. Most people use Nazi to refer to both 1930s German National Socialists and modern day white supremacists. Therefore, that's what it means. English is not a dead language like Latin, so stop trying to treat it like one with regards to this one word. It just makes you look like a Nazi.

[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

And pro-Trump Republicans are neither of those things. There may be some white supremacists in their club but by no means is it a requirement. All I see from them is delusions and shitposting.

[-] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

The entire republican party is currently lockstep saying all trans folk are trying to corrupt, if not molest, children. They're promising national legislation to oppress and punish them if they win. Before them, it was Mexicans and Muslims. They always have a group of "others" to scapegoat, and given enough time and power they always eventually act on it.

"Never again" means we're supposed to recognize and stop this behavior before it can harm anybody, not wait until it's too late as we disingenuously quibble over definitions.

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