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[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Quick, tell me about the taean work system, which is used in all medium and large workplaces, without googling it. Since you're so informed about the dprk

(The point of this is to make you reconsider how much you actually know about the country that isnt just straight up propaganda)

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll meet you: without googling I believe that is a work transfer system with China. I think it's rail based, and I think they stay for some time.

But they aren't free to go where they please, or leave the region entirely without ramifications.

Edit cause I was honest: I was wrong.

But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?

Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?

Lastly, I don't need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?

It isnt their agricultural system, I would suggest you reread the whole thing because you've missed the most important aspect of what taean means. It means a collaboration between organized local labor and wider democracy, overseen by special interests such as the woman's league.

Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?

Why would you argue it is ineffective? Studies show the cooperatives work better than privately owned businesses. Also you haven't established that the dprk is "authoritarian" any more than any other state.

They experienced famine after the collapse of the USSR, theyre doing fine on food now.

Lastly, I don't need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.

Well, you should. They tried to liberate the south when the US and US puppet dictator were killing tens of thousands of protestors. 20 percent of them died and all their infrastructure was bombed. After the war they did better under a socialist economy than the South until the US massively subsidized the South and the USSR collapsed, cutting off trade because of sanctions from the people who committed genocide on them (the US)

I would like to know what "own words and reports" you're referring to.

[-] TankieCatgirl@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I would like to know what "own words and reports" you're referring to.

yeonmi-park

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.

This is an unusual claim, as most people do not let the DPRK speak for itself, even to then refute it. All you see is third hand horseshit along with defector "testimony".

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