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I mean the internet is the worst place to do politics so idc if the right used some meme I made up. Want to do politics go outside, it was campaigning and canvassing that won the election for Zohran, it’s also what got Die Linke 10% of the vote in Germany. Real politics happens in the real world. Yeah the right wing is loud online, but they’re fucking cowards in real life. Most of the leftists I know are doing shit in real life not posting. FYI I told the wojack joke in real life then somebody posted it on the web, same with shocked pikachu also a joke told in real life. You’d be suprised how much doing stuff in real life achieves.
Everything is online. Nobody knows you knocked on doors in the neighborhood while people were eating supper. After supper people are logging into their favorite social media and engaging with content. Content which right now is leaning heavily on the right and affecting generations. I'll argue all day that everything you said is exactly what the left is fucked and totally losing everything for the foreseeable future.
Zohran I hope to God succeeds but he's going to need so much support online and the left removed themselves from every platform, they have no connection, structure or voices to organize online, they have no tools to assist. They all hate AI. They think every platforms is racist except fully leftist ones.
TPUSA, Heritage foundation, Cato institute, Koch Bros fucking UFC and barstool sports are all going to really amplify and sabotage Zohran. They have so many ins with business and media, they'll all self sandstone sabotage to make sure the numbers can be amplified ONLINE to as many people as possible. The left is so far behind the times, they have no ability to counter this very foreseeable future.
Lol ok mr very online guy. You know that those media organisations you mentioned are all funded by billionaires. People like me aren’t funded because we say stuff that is uncomfortable and I don’t give a shit about appeasing advertisers. The biggest difference you can make is in the real world, being there for your community volunteering tennant unions etc. Posting is the lowest effort and easiest thing you can do. Actual struggle happens in real life.
Then why the fuck do you people show up to protest??
How does it make any sense to you that people will drive miles to some street and stand around while police kick your heads in. You cannot argue protesting publicly is effective yet engagement and capture online is not. What is really fucking crazy is how a lot of the left are convinced a public protest is Mecca while online engagement (which every one is putting money into as you said) is crap.
Almost like the people who put money into the effective methods are convincing their opponent to do the ineffective thing while they convince them the effective methods that they're all invested in is useless.
They're funding what you are doing for free right now. It's insane how thick minded so many of you are. Every comment or content you all make costs them money to counter. It's a numbers game. It costs you nothing. Take every protester willing to show up in the streets and teach them how to create media.
The left is cooked. So much brain rot on the left. You're all calling people who have beat you in every arena as low information. Yet they beat you all, everywhere. How'd that no Kings protest work out?
Online is where opinions are shaped and formed. It's a force multiplier. I'm so done with the left. Have no idea what they're doing. It's like watching people click their fingers in a park all over again.
What are you referring to? Who is you people? I’m sorry people do know if you knocked on doors, just because you’re not doing it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t get results.
I have done it.
Why would you knock on someone's door? What's the point?
Um to have an actual real connection to the person you’re talking to and not just talk to some faceless name and avatar on a website? To show people that you actually care about them and that a political project is important enough for you to get your ass off the couch for. To maybe connect with other like minded people so you can organise more?
Holy shit I’m actually starting to realise what people meant when they said the .world people are crazy. How online are you that I have to explain that talking to people in real life is nicer than just communicating online. I order you to touch grass.
Haha touch grass yea so funny dude.
You spend 4 hours and end up having a real conversation with 4 people who were already on board or lonely.
This comment already had probably 50 people read it.
Keep your moral virtuosity. Make sure as the left continue to lose that you hold it close and live in that bubble of yours. Somehow the left have no ability to adapt or change in a modern world and it shows everyday.
The right are online. They're not door knocking. They're already in everyone's living room. Every single person in your life I bet has told you some right wing point like asking if my wearing masks are actually safe or that vaccinations might not work. That's because the right have adapted and continue to capitalize on effective communication, capture and engagement. Something door knocking is not.
Wake up FFS.
The right have been a more or less hegemonic force since the 80s. There is a reason why I spend hours online. The reason why the right can do all this is because they get paid to. They get millions of funding thrown at them by oligarchs, that’s why they are so visible not because they’re some creative marketing geniuses. Like so many things in life it comes down to resources and who had access to them. Meanwhile the left has to rely on people like me who are going to sacrifice their free time and creativity for something they believe in.
The left has all the things you mentioned as well, and is online as well. Currently one of the biggest podcasts on Patreon is hosted by two lefties. I also want to point out that for most of the lefts history being a leftist meant sacrifice of some sort. If you don’t want to do that fine but stop removed at me about how the left refuses to adapt. We are up against capital, if you haven’t figured that out and what it implies then idk what to do for you.
That’s why going outside and doing things in real life is important fund raising for example is very important. You can also donate to lefty content creators that you like. Currently a bunch of them are getting cancelled or demonetised thanks to their support against genocide. The left has been in decline since the fall of the USSR so idk why you think this is some kind of new phenomena. The fact that they’re slowly making a comeback is actually pretty cool and gives me a small slither of hope sometimes. If you just want an easy ride then join one of the billionaire parties, the pay is better and you’ll have to work less.
You're done with the left? As you insisted that liberalism is left, does that mean you're abandoning liberalism? Great. Another step towards weakening the owning class.
You're right. I'm one of the ones who got offline from the big social media sites. Honestly, I feel like it's a civic duty and have tried to convince everyone of Fediverse accounts and have failed. I also don't know what's going on in my friend's lives, and I even got off Bluesky due to tracking or some other offense I can't remember. But I can tell you for sure, once the US gov becomes destabilized enough, that data collection from all these years will be abused to the point that all the people in the "I have nothing to hide" club are seriously going to regret being on Facebook and Instagram, etc. This surveillance state is going to be awful when they succeed, and they will.
I did do for the same reasons. But I question if this speeds things up.
If I was a big think tank charged with changing the public opinion to favor the right wing, my first thing I'd advise you to do was remove political opponents from the view of the general public.
Then once the area has been cleared, it'll be cheaper to flood the zone with messages and opinions and content that shapes public opinion you favor the view I want.
I'm not sure why the downvote. This is a valid point, but it's also their fault when they know other options exist. I can't be blamed for choosing to exit a toxic atmosphere just because nobody else will, even after being told.