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No they’re not, I hate to break it to you but most conservatives are liberals. What you’re referring to is liberals picking up on social policies championed by the left.
Yes they are. A Liberal for most political subgroups in liberalism are left of center with the odd leaning center right. Liberalism values mostly are left of center values.
Please define liberalism for me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Ok so based on that you should realise that every political party follows liberal economics. Hell even most conservative parties in the west pretend to stand up for liberal rights.
Economics?
Yes almost every political party believes in the right of private property and market economics.
Right, I haven't said otherwise. But political alignment is more than just economics. Economics is part but not the whole
Economics is at the base of the political super structure.
Edit: I suggest you read this: https://archive.org/details/ComManifesto/page/n3/mode/1up
The whole split between liberals and socialists was based entirely on economics. There is a reason why Karl Marx wrote a whole book on economics.
You're describing Marxist theory, which is not the be all end all of political spectrum discussions. It's only one
Lol no I’m describing the difference between socialists and liberals. Socialists of all stripes were anti capitalist and rooted in working class movements and anti capitlism. Marx had the most robust and scientific understanding of the liberal political order.
Some edits for clarity and another edit: All socialists understood that they had to burn the liberal order to the ground if they wanted to try gain the type of freedom that they were looking for. Also most anarchists and socialists I have met have never had any problem with what I said about economics being the base of the political super structure what they usually disagree on is strategy and how to organise a society once the liberal order has been abolished.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Workingmen%27s_Association