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The key word is "travel" thus excluding you and your family from the warning. Now go fix your shit instead of crying to someone who cannot.
But if I leave the country for any reason I have to come back. So then I have to travel into the country.
Also that's kind of an aggressive response for what I meant to be kind of a jokey comment?
You don't, and that has nothing to do with traveling to the US from another country, so that is why you get the "aggressive" response because I am tired of Americans chiming in with "Jokes" when their country is a fucking hell hole that is impacting everyone else.
Leave, fix your shit, or stop crying to people negatively impacted by your people without adding anything meaningful to the conversation.
Go through my post history. I'm literally an anarchist. I literally hate America and I literally want to abolish it. I am perfectly aware of how disgusting American influence is on the world—that's why I'm making jokes about it. Joking about it is how some people cope with the crushing reality of capitalism. And honestly I thought these two comments were kinda tame.
You literally aren't an Anarchist because you are literally living under the boot of a dictatorship. You likely wouldn't survive an anarchist society, but you will grow out of that idea eventually I am sure.
No that's not how it works. Anarchists are people who advocate for the abolition of all authorities and hierarchies, including but not limited to the State, capitalism, xenophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, etc. You don't have to currently live in an anarchist society to be an anarchist.
Well no I wouldn't survive because everyone dies 😆. But I wouldn't advocate for anarchism if I thought I was going to have a bad time.
But I want to gently push back against the "Mad Max" notion of "anarchy" that I think you're working with. Most forms of anarchism actually call for people to work together, to form groups to get stuff done but without the violence inherent in the State and the inequalities of capitalism that States inevitably reinforce.
For more information, see Section A.1 of the Anarchist FAQ.
I like the way you explain your Anarchist stances. I'm a Christian Anarchist myself, and see anarchism as a society in a similar light as personally trying to be like Jesus: It may be a state of perfection we, in our imperfections, cannot attain, but if everyone was trying their best towards a cooperative society free of authoritarian hierarchal peepee-swinging, maybe things would be much better overall.
Daring to believe in a better world and exert whatever influence we have to do so, takes a strong inner fire, and a lot of people miss the point when they think we just wanna tear it all down without a plan and start from scratch next week and it would all be unicorns and rainbows overnight.
I know what Anarchists are, which is why I said one day you will grow out of it. As long as you abide by the laws and systems of the things you "advocate against" you are nothing more than a hypocrite like all other Anarchists.
You are advocating for something that wouldn't last, and would be a bad time for most involved. The idea of Anarchy may sound cool to you, but if you bring it to its logical conclusion it fails immediately. There is a reason why Anarchy didn't embed itself as the default after we started forming larger and larger groups.
Whatever idea of Anarchy that you are working with is misinformed. The state formed as a product of people grouping up and requiring structures and rules for everyone to coexist as peacefully as possible. If your idea of Anarchy is "Everyone works together to get stuff done without violence inherent in the state and the inequalities of capitalism" we have a name for that and it is called "Socialism".
No I won't lmao. Been going strong for ~15 years, and the older I get and the more I learn about the world and the more I experience life, the more I believe that anarchism is the best framework for analyzing and synthesizing a society that's good for everyone.
By that logic, I should start murdering and killing random civilians because it's in opposition to the law. Of course not! Not literally all laws are completely wrong. But I 1000% do not give a fuck about the letter of the law for the things I actually want to do.
Yes exactly, that's why some people use the term libertarian socialism to describe anarchism and its relatives! (Notice the little "l"; I obviously condemn the "Libertarian" Party and right-wing "Libertarians".) I will happily identify as a socialist, but "anarchist" is a bit more precise.
The rest of your talking points are directly answered in the Anarchist FAQ previously linked, and they did a much better job than I possibly could.
But let's get back to where we started. I am no fan of America even though I live here. As an anarchist, I am painfully aware of and vocal about how evil an entity America is. You don't need to be an anarchist to come to that conclusion, but I brought it up only because it's sufficient to come to the conclusion that America is evil (if not necessary). But more importantly: just because I live in America does not mean I have no right to vent.
And I would be a lot more quiet if you were from Palestine or Iran or one of the various countries America has bombed into the stone age, or even from the inner city or one of the reservations inside the US. I could absolutely sympathize with them being rude to me. I'd agree with them and take it. I'm an anarchist, and I'm accustomed to reading material written with a confrontational tone; half our modern anarchist literature is just people yelling at the reader 😆.
But you're from Canada. Canada is just as complicit as the United States in the vast majority of the suffering we inflict on the world. And y'all are just as shitty to your indigenous population as we are.
And I've been noticing a distinctly...pro-Canada stance in your recent comment history...
If Americans have nothing to be proud of ...WHICH WE DO NOT... AMERICANS HAVE NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF ...then Canadians have almost nothing to be proud of. Yeah your healthcare system and social services are slightly less shit for white people, but Canada is still a settler-colonialist, capitalist, racist project that needs to be abolished.
Like if I should feel bad for living in America, then by taking your logic to its logical conclusion YOU should be ashamed about living in Canada.
Which you shouldn't. You were born there or were brought there. It's not your fault.
And to be completely clear: I reject national pride overall. National pride is for people who have nothing real to be proud of.
By that logic, you aren't the only person in the world and a not so small amount of people are all about that life.
A racist Anarchist? Well I never!
Canada has much to be ashamed of, and much more to be proud of. We most certainly do not treat our Indigenous population like you do. We also do a lot of good around the world. There is a reason why we have so many allies.
I am not ashamed to be Canadian, and I am proud to be Canadian. I am also proud of being Greek. Regardless of the history of both.
We have much to be proud of in Canada. Feel free to explain how one "abolishes" a country full of people born and raised here from all over the world.
I choose to live here because I like my country. I am proud of that choice. Just like you choose to live in the US and play pretend freedom fighter.
To be completely clear: Obviously, "Anarchist". That is exactly what people say when they have nothing to be proud of in their country.
...you seriously think a lot of people are interested in murdering random people? That it's the existence of the State that keeps people from just being serial killers? Nah.
Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid; A Factor of Evolution
I.e. sure you're going to get some serial killers and anarchist societies will have to account for them, but the vast majority of people are good enough.
What are you smoking and can I have some?!?
Acknowledging the very real reality that people from Iran and Palestine are more likely to be in a rough state of mind because they're currently being fucking bombed into oblivion is not fucking racism. Similarly, people living in the inner city or on reservations who are constantly being kicked in the teeth by the system at every step of their lives might are more likely to be in a rough state of mind than I am in my relatively privileged position.
Acknowledging my privilege relative to them is not fucking racist.
Yo my sister lived in Canada for several years. She has indigenous descent and she faced so much fucking racism for even looking First Nations.
Abolish the State through a diversity of tactics including peaceful protest, nonviolent and violent direct action, and mass mobilization. Convince people (like you) to also break their mental chains (like attachment to your nation). Establish alternative, prefigurative systems in opposition to hierarchy and domination with built-in safeguards to ensure consent of the community these systems serve.
Okay the only people who should be ashamed of their country are people who are currently proud of it. If you need to feel shame to break this chain then please do.
Really? Because... that's kinda important!
No Canada does not. Canada is in lockstep with America, providing material support for the War on Terror and complicity in the Gaza Genocide, just to name a few.
Because Canada is in lockstep with America and the Canadian government has competent diplomats. Also... America has a lot of allies! That's not a good measure of how beneficial a country is to the world.
Lol I absolutely do not pretend to be a freedom fighter because I'm too tired to fight. But I'd rather be a hypocrite than completely wrong.
And no, I absolutely do not choose to live here. If I left the United States for another country, I would blow through the couple hundred bucks in my bank account (which I don't even think I can access abroad? My bank will lock my card if I start using it across the country, let alone the world) because I wouldn't be allowed to get work, then get my ass deported back to the US. At least in the US I have people I can ask for money, and I can get work. Crucially... I'm not gonna dox myself, but I'm working to get the credentials to be able to get the fuck out of here and into almost any country in a way that is sustainable.
No lol. Americans are unfortunately super proud of their country. Patriotism gets more fashionable as things get worse.
But also: in my view, there's nothing to be proud of in any country. Pride in your community? Pride in your culture? Subculture? Heritage? Family? Friends? Your own achievements? Sure thing! But the "nation" is a falsehood organized around the State, run by your local warlords in service of capitalism.
Definitionally, I believe that no one should be proud of their nation. Definitionally, nationalism is bad. I literally don't care about what quality of life you lead in that nation, because without the violence of the State and the capitalists it serves, you and your neighbors would be better off without the State.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and not worth further time. Give your head a shake.
Like seriously I'd like to know so I don't repeat it: which part of any of my replies is bigoted?
2 comments 6 minutes apart on the same comment. Thirsty much?
Yeah I actually am thirsty to know what specifically made you think I'm bigoted. We can agree to disagree about everything else but being called a bigot is pretty serious 😳