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So do I understand correctly that on this globe you can only be against genocide of the Palestinians if you live in an authoritarian country like China, Iran, Russia, etc.?
Obviously in those countries you can't be against their own genocides like the Uhigers, Ukrainians, etc. But somehow when it comes to Israel the rest of the world seems to not dare being against genocide?
Is is because the US is so powerful that they fear reprecusions? Or why is that?
It's because we are in the worst timeline. Evil has won in this para-dimension.
I think you'll find Western countries don't need much of an excuse to support colonial genocide.
That's because they are very familiar with having a neighbor with a mindset like Israel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
My biggest issue is Americans. Half of Americans support genocide, the other half want to moralize and lead the charge against it, which just comes off as hypocrisy considering i didn’t even get so much as an apology for all the bombings and invasions my country took by Americans. Now Americans are moralizing to my brown indigenous ass about colonialism and genocide and acting like once again Americans should lead this movement, which only cheapens it. Americans need to get in the back of the line and shut the fuck up. Support but leave your moralizing at home, and “I wasn't personally the one who bombed you” is not an excuse for Israelis so it’s not one for Americans either. You guys fucked half the world and now you wanna move on and leave it in the past so you don’t have to take collective responsibility
Edit: getting downvoted by Americans who don’t like non whites calling them out for their bullshit. Biggest terrorist nation on earth
And 99% of us vote for it every two years, because both ruling parties are warmongers.
But what gets me the most is that half of voters' opinions on war change depending on who's in power. The folks who are so anti-war right now would fully support it if Harris were in office, and that changing of opinions based on political convenience and nothing else just infuriates me. They still defend Obama's bloodied hands even though he was bombing seven different countries while in office. (That we know of)
It absolutely is, for both.
You don’t get to reap the rewards of colonialism and war while dodging all the responsibilities
I have the feeling Israel is a US puppet state that is being used to take control over the Middle East. (And destroy Islam while they are at it)
I'm many countries, yes, in many ots controversial. In others the political class is against the genocide, including Western countries.
Other than Spain and Ireland, which ones?
Brazil, Colombia, league of Arab counties, Norway, Sweden. Even Germany and France have expressed concern. The EU as whole is flagging that free trade agreements may be annulled due to war crimes.
None of the 2 mentioned are genocided.
And the fact you're commenting about China, Iran, Russia, etc. neing authoritarian while there's full on censorship in the west about this post is typical.
You're part of the deluded, pretentious 10% of the world calling themselves 'the international community' with 'their western values'.
Already hated for centuries of imperialism and now this total support for genocidal maniacs.
Anyone in touch with people outside of the western online community knows they will not forget this either.
Agreed. Plus those are rookie numbers. Mao killed at least 40 million people on accident. Imagine what he could do if he put effort in.
you people are pathetic
Do you have a source for that number other than a CIA funded think-tank?
Please give me the real numbers, comrade.
Most estimates range from 15-30 million. A smaller proportion of the population than the Irish potato famine which was caused by British mismanagement but I don't hear that talked about as a reason why capitalism is terrible much.
Hell yeah Mao stays winning.
Probably because the overwhelming majority of people agree it was bad, especially here on lemmy. Find me 5 people that say the potato famine was good, actually, and I'll find you 3 entire instances that'll ban me for saying "maybe killing 15-30 million people for societal progress isn't the best strategy."
Tankies get more pushback here because nobody is singing the praises of capitalism.
Yeah people agree the famine in China was bad too. Even Mao and other officials in China agreed there were mistakes and made changes afterwards. Are you aware China experienced devastating famines on average of once a century for the previous 2000 years before that? There hasn't been a famine since then.
Say that on the triad I fucking dare you.
Under a system with significant capitalist elements, you western dog. How many billionaires are there in China?
Genocide doesnt require direct killing. Forced sterilization and destruction of cultural identity is also genocide.
From Wikipedia:
And there is plenty of documented proof of that. To deny that is to deny your own ability to see, read and think.
So you admit to not being able to do any of those three?
Here have fun reading ~400 sources ranging from pre 2000 to present day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China#References
Literally thousands of news organizations from left to right, old to new, small to large have reported on this. There are uncountable numbers of reports and pieces of evidence from texts to pictures to audio and video recordings to witness reports.
If you ask me about some specific source, then you already know that what i have said is true and you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing. If you know the name Adrian Zenz, then you know how to read a Wikipedia article.
What do you mean by prove? This person just copy and pasted the definition.
Watched an interesting take from one of the Chinese politician or whatever they are called there.
He was blaming the US imperial forces causing turmoil in Afghanistan which leaked into the Chinese side and fumed some of the locals now wanting to split from China and wanting their own nation. Pollie said their leader is an american citizen. So I guess china has been detaining these people? Who knows.
This is their loincloth of a justification for the genocide, yes.
If one of them tries to walk out, do they just let them?