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[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I used to joke that China wants to trade Ukraine for Taiwan, now it is very clear: you shut up about helping/recognizing/arming Taiwan and we keep a leash on russia...until next time...

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Taiwan for Ukraine would actually be a trade worth considering for Europe. The major problem, besides values like freedom and democracy, international law, is the interruption of supply lines from Taiwan caused by a Chinese takeover.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Exactly, Taiwan made sure it was worth defending, but I fear that this will lose value over time. Besides you never know what stupid shit is going to come out of tramp's brain the day anything escalates.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Trump like the military because he does like everything powerful and strong. I think he truly is opposed to long and costly wars. So far his actions track that pretty well.

Trump is looking for deals to enrich himself or become more famous and powerful.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

...so was putin (who is smarter than him), it was supposed to be a 2-week SMO in the Donbas. But the problem with these megalomaniac gamblers is that it is easy for them to miscalculate, because they think war is easy, quick, simple and they think that their opponents are no match.

[-] BB84@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Trade worth considering for Europe. Huh. So fuck the Taiwanese, if that's good for Europe?

This kind of thinking by Westerners is why "multipolar world" as a concept is so popular.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Multipolar world exactly means abandoning Taiwan. It means everyone for themselves.

[-] BB84@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago

No. Multipolar means everyone can have multiple independently powerful allies/enemies. It means India, ASEAN, etc. being powerful enough to step in and help ROC when westerners decide to abandon it.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

India and ASEAN have no credible power projection capabilities to do anything for Taiwan. ASEAN is primarily an organization for economic cooperation.

Multipolar means strong countries get to bully their neighbors without repercussions.

[-] BB84@mander.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

In a multipolar world they will have credible power projection capabilities.

[-] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Interruption? You mean ceasing, as all semiconductor industry would be levelled by the usa

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