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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 days ago

Since changing from within is impossible, and voting in a new party is highly unlikely, it seems the revolutionaries were right all along.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Why do you think change from within impossible?

That's exactly what Trump and MAGA did to the Republican party.

Violent revolution brings change but rarely the kind of change most of those who engaged in it actually wanted.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Well, first, MAGA isn't really a qualitative change to the GOP, and is fully compatible with bourgeois rule, unlike trying to get socialism to overtake the DNC. Secondly, revolution is by far the most successful way at bringing about what those engaged with it wanted, not sure what you're talking about here.

[-] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

I would have much preferred a connections Republican party over what we got.

If revolutions bring ultimately successful, examples?

I know there are some, with the obvious one being the American Civil War that ended slavery. But, wars come with an intense cost to human life, and sounds be a list resort. Precisely because most around the world have not been successful, and have lead to things like military rule.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 19 hours ago

Regardless of how you feel about the GOP, the extent it is allowed to change is the extent to which the ruling class can continue to have their interests served. The DNC is the same in this respect, neither can go against the system dominated by private ownership, but they can slide around as long as they adhere to that.

As for successful revolutions, many. Algeria, Haiti, Cuba, China, Russia, Vietnam, etc. All have delivered much better results for their people post-revolution as compared to pre-revolution. Revolution happens because it's necessary.

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