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Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression (www.cbc.ca)

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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I've been listening to both these bands. I'd love to see a show in Canada.

Death to the IDF.

Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news...

https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/kneecap-cleared-police-drop-glastonbury-35579611

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas,

What? What is the IDF doing other than oppressing Palestinians? That's literally their whole thing. Israel has sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Gaza whose whole purpose is to kill and displace Palestinians, not to mention their operations and enforcement of Apartheid in the West Bank. There is no way to be an innocent IDF soldier., because everything they do is evil.

Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.

Well there's nothing can Palestinians can do to stop Israel except violence.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

What? What is the IDF doing other than oppressing Palestinians? That’s literally their whole thing. Israel has sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Gaza whose whole purpose is to kill and displace Palestinians, not to mention their operations and enforcement of Apartheid in the West Bank. There is no way to be an innocent IDF soldier., because everything they do is evil.

I would highly recommend you look up what "Conscription" is, and the consequences of avoiding service.

Well there’s nothing can Palestinians can do to stop Israel except violence.

One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Palestinians, Israelis, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, or any other people involved in this.

[-] small44@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would highly recommend you look up what "Conscription" is, and the consequences of avoiding service.

Jail vs being a war criminal that killed ton of Palestinians and that may end up with ptsd and committed suicide.

The best choice is so clear

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250103-suicide-rate-in-israeli-army-hits-thirteen-year-high-amid-ongoing-war

One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Palestinians, Israelis, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, or any other people involved in this.

Would you say the same thing about Ukrainians defending their lands?

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Jail vs being a war criminal that killed ton of Palestinians and that may end up with ptsd and committed suicide.

The best choice is so clear

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250103-suicide-rate-in-israeli-army-hits-thirteen-year-high-amid-ongoing-war

I do not understand what point you are trying to make here.

Would you say the same thing about Ukrainians defending their lands?

Yes. One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Ukrainians, Russians, North Koreans, or any other group involved in direct conflict.

[-] small44@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

I do not understand what point you are trying to make here. My point is jail is better than committing genocide or have really bad ptsd that you commit suicide. Regardless, once in gaza if a soldier who was forced to join the war want to kill a Palestinian, shouldn't the Palestinian have to right to kill before he get killed?

Yes. One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Ukrainians, Russians, North Koreans, or any other group involved in direct conflict.

This is so naive. We all would like to see the occupier/invader/aggressor to stop violence and get held accountable but it was never the case in history , it's such an idealistic view. We know really well that Russians goal is to assimilate Ukrainians and for Israel to kick out Palestinians and take the land they believe was given to them by god.

Are you telling me Ukrainians and Palestinians should not resistance and kill invaders and wait for justice to come by itself and for Russians to stop the invasion, Israel yo stop occupation .

Would you like if you tell someone that a person is threatening to kill you and that person tell you if the person who threaten come to kill you , don't your violence to defend yourself and kill him as the last resort?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

I would highly recommend you look up what "Conscription" is, and the consequences of avoiding service.

I know what conscription is, but I also know what genocide is. Wehrmacht soldiers were conscripted; would you have discouraged violence against them too?

One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Palestinians, Israelis, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, or any other people involved in this.

Tell that to Israel. When Israel is intent on using violence to murder and displace Palestinians, what do you want them to do?

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

I have stated my point of view very clearly. If you are confused about my point of view I invite you to ask good faith questions, or refresh yourself by reading what I said again.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

You stated what you don't want people to do, but you haven't said anything about what Palestinians should do instead. Surely your answer isn't "nothing," is it?