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No, the large majority understand the difference between democratic socialism and social democracy. The Nordics don't call themselves socialist, because they aren't.
Further, socialism is extremely relevant. The PRC is Socialist, and is the world's largest economy and industrial power. Support for collectivizing the economy is growing in the west, even if absolute numbers are still low. Socialism remains the only way to move on.
Revolution did not "kill millions of people," in all major socialist countries life expectancy increased by 50%-100%, infant mortality plumetted, and poverty dramatically reduced. Revolution has proven to be the only way to genuinely democratize the economy and establish socialism, when you try to do that within a liberal capitalist framework like in Chile, you get couped by the US Empire.
You'd do well to join an org like the aforementioned PSL, reading theory and history books are also helpful.
Unlikely but nice try anyways and your arguments are coherent and civil so I appreciate that. Your argument and debate skills are great too.
My belief is a smaller, more progressive one. Not saying violent revolution is off the table, but I don't think we're anywhere near it.
Well, I appreciate the complement, but I do want to point out that the longer you hold onto the idea that we can vote for a better world in a system designed to keep imperialism running for as long as possible, the longer you'll be walking around with your hands tied doing exactly what the ruling class wants you to do.
Here's an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list if you ever want to start reading theory.
I know a lot about it, thanks.
Given your other responses I'm not sure that's the case, but you do you.
Always appreciate your civility, Cowbee. If only more people on Hexbear and ML would carry your torch. Might work to convert more people.
I appreciate it! I do think different people respond better or worse to different tactics, some people need more harsh treatment, some need more patience. I think a broad approach is best, in my experience!
Loooool. You lying shitheel