man, they must be paying good for this propaganda
in other news, i finally got banned from that shithole, i guess i supported ukraine too much
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I mean yeah, the fact that women and children die in war doesn't automatically make it a genocide.
Intensionally killing women and children, kidnapping children and destroying cultural sites for the express purpose of replacing the people and culture with your own? Yeah, that makes it a genocide, three times over.
And note how it the definition of genocide doesn't include or exclude any specific countries? Yeah that's on purpose
Don't forget the Russian politicians constantly stating that they seek to eliminate the entire idea of Ukrainian identity because they aren't appreciative enough of the motherland to deserve their own identity.
While the original definitions of genocide were explicitly based on what soviets did in Ukranie...
That's what I was thinking.
I'd also like to add it can be a "war crime" and a horrible monster thing being done and still not be a genocide.
To repeat "not a genocide" doesn't mean it's "fine and okay"
I'm just saying it's a very specific term.
If an army js purposefully killing children just to be mean and terrible... That's awful and should be punished ... But that's also not a genocide. It's a genocide if the goal and purpose is to eliminate the culture or people from existence.
A good example is the American slave trade. Obviously terrible and unforgivable but not a genocide. What we did to native Americans was a genocide.
I would argue about transatlantic slave trade though. Deaths of millions of people, immense suffering, destruction of societies and cultural erasure. There may have been some cultures that have simply gone extinct then due to people getting hunted for slave trade.
Fair point. I'll even offer you my main... Question... The slave owners did purposely erase culture and family bonds from the slaves in america.... But they weren't trying to erase their culture from Africa.
So at first I leen to not technically a genocide but the amounts of people and the purposefully planned way we specifically destroyed their past ... Is that genocide? It was purposely done and wide spread... Hundreds of thousands of people.. . But only erasing it from them not the world.... Is that genocide it was documented as essential for slavery, to break apart all culture and loyalty in slaves and erase their identity entirely.... In America... Not their home in Africa. It's why "African American" is a group but "African British " isn't. They purposely had their culture removed from them so their culture group is now basically former slaves.
Is that genocide? I'm not smart enough to say but I see enough to ask l.
I'd say that if one rounds up a village, drops the people on a ship and sends them off to other continent to have their liberty restricted, possibly also previously killing old and sick ones, who've no use for forced labor - that's definitely a genocide. Specific cultures were absolutely targeted too, because more advanced cultures with somewhat centralized authorities could actually fight back.
That's a fair and arguable point out were the cultures target with the intent... You know what I hate arguing this point. It's complicated. Don't make me argue slavery isn't genocide please.. I don't... Want to have to defend that argument....
Not because I feel Im wrong it's just not how I want to spend my day off
It's like explaining "the victim turned 18 at 12:04 so it's not technically pedophilie and depending on what you consider death to be it might not be necrophilia either"
I'm not saying I'm wrong I'm just saying I don't want to argue that technicality in my day off
Get back to work so you can keep the arguments coming.
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Let's go back to whatever crazy nonsense brought this off because it's less depressing than capitalism.