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[-] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Not at all.

  • Bazzite preinstalls Flathub apps by default. The author still wants to use Fedora Flatpaks for the preinstalled apps.
  • Bazzite ships Flathub unfiltered. The author wants to only show FLOSS software built on trusted platforms by default (so no taking a precompiled binary and shipping that).
  • Bazzite ships Flathub in spite of its flaws. The author wants Fedora to work with Flathub to clean up its issues before shipping the remote by default.
[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Bazzite ships Flathub unfiltered.

Last update (which replaced Discover with Bazaar) changed that.

so no taking a precompiled binary and shipping that.

All FLOSS apps on Flathub are built on trusted platforms by default, in the open and verifiable. Same thing with Brew.

Not including proprietary software in the default config is a valid choice every distro has to make.

The sudden success of Bazzite comes from how easy it is to use.

[-] quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

No it's still unfiltered, we just removed 3 footguns that are pre-installed in the image anyway.

[-] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Last update (which replaced Discover with Bazaar) changed that.

In a way, true. But I don't think they are using flatpak's filter mechanism. I believe the filtering is done by Bazaar itself. That means that even if Bazaar is hiding an app, you are still able to install it manually from the CLI.

The intent is also different. Bazaar is filtering out footguns, like the Steam flatpak on Bazzite (since Steam is preinstalled as an RPM) and Bluefin hides flatpak IDEs.

All FLOSS apps on Flathub are built on trusted platforms by default, in the open and verifiable.

That's not true. Take LocalSend as an example. It does not build LocalSend on Flathub. It simply takes a GitHub release URL of a compiled tar.gz. And GitHub releases do not have to be built on GitHub, you are able to upload any local file and have it shown as a release.

The sudden success of Bazzite comes from how easy it is to use.

I agree. But it's also important to have principles and to stick to them. The great thing about Fedora Atomic is that Fedora is able to create their FLOSS OS following their principles and others are able to take that base and build upon it to create their vision.

Fedora doesn't have to be for everyone.

[-] Matty_r@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I wish they didn't need to replace Discover and were able to integrate changes into it upstream instead of implementing Bazaar. I'm sure they had their reasons though.

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