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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

An AR-15 or 9mm PCC would be my gold standard for one gun, with a 9mm sidearm, but for first timers I always recommend a 10/22. It's mechanically simple, ammo costs like 10% of 9mm or 5.56mm, and the recoil/sound profile are very light. To learn to shoot properly they need to shoot a lot while practicing safe handling and a 10/22 does both well.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And if anyone is worried about the usefulness of .22, ~~it's the caliber the CEO shooter used isn't it?~~ I was mistaken, but in a shooting of that type .22 could be effective, though it will have a lower range if one is looking for distance.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

It's a proper deadly bullet that enters the body and bounces around without the energy to overpenetrate. Range-wise it's somewhat better than a handgun but still within 100m or so. Distance shooting is such a specialised skill and set of circumstances that you're probably a lot more likely to need to use it within that 100m than beyond it.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

Very true about range, especially any kind of urban environment, 100m is really all you need. But if things really get to a proper war or civil conflict in the US there is such massive open space that I could see long range sniping being a valuble skill, but who knows how anything is going to play out in the long term.

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

No he used subsonic 9mm with a suppressor

[-] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Tbh if you're getting a 10/22 to learn and you're ever gonna get a handgun, I'd get a tx22 first/instead. Long guns are more intuitive and forgiving than handguns.

Plus the tx22 is a much better value than the 10/22 compared to their respective alternatives. A $100 22 rifle is perfectly adequate if you're solely getting it to learn with. And the tx22 is just a really good gun despite the low price.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A .22 handgun is also good but I don't have experience with them. In fire drills I've done with a 9mm handgun and an AR-15, I was able to put more rounds on a target faster with the handgun. The only thing I don't like about practicing with the 9mm alone is that I'm not really shooting from different positions, only a standing stance. The rifle encourages you to crouch or lay down which I prefer when shooting.

edit: As for rifles, I personally love the X-22 backpacker stock for the takedown version of the 10/22: https://magpul.com/x-22-backpacker-stock-ruger-10-22-takedown.html . The rifle is so light and versatile while breaking down into a small daypack. The stock has a watertight compartment for a small survival kit. Unless I'm in grizzly bear country, it's the one gun I'd bring into the backwoods.

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