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As much as I love their direction, i still have trouble taking their commentary seriously because they played a part in creating the gen X/Millenial bump of wierd conservatives who think they're smarter than everybody because they're "independent" conservatives.
Like their central ethos was "caring about people is for losers".
The anti-climate change, pro-Walmart, pro-Starbucks whatever-era was annoying as fuck. Like you said, it's not directly South Park but their annoying fans taking their shit too seriously.
Internet threads talking about climate change had some "man bear big" bullshit going around.
The thing is that I watched South Park during that time too and I loved a lot of the episodes. I just didn't take their commentary too seriously. I'm just like, "well they're obviously wrong". I was a Richard Dawkins fan and had no problem with them skewering him at the time either.
They at least admitted they were wrong on Man Bear Pig. Agree on the sentiment though they share a big part in creating the “enlightened centrist” bullshit
Ah the enlightened centrists! I have a couple of such friends who are confidenty wrong all the time.
They were ripping on all of those things. Man Bear Pig wasn't climate-change denial it was commentary on climate change denial.
Can't blame south park for conservatives not getting shit. That's their thing.
I meant that the fans were annoying as fuck. I think my post was to highlight that I enjoyed the episodes but hated the fans that came out of it.
Trey and Matt aren't like climate scientists or whatever, they're comedy writers with a political edge. Even if they're blatantly wrong with their commentary I don't really blame them. It's that we take them too seriously.
Fair. I don't interact with the people you do. I have yet to meet Rick & Morty level obnoxious south park fans. But what you saying does explain why SP felt it necessary to spell it out in season 22. I'm guessing the guy in this scene is a parody of the folks you're talking about.
I always saw manbearpig as a scathing criticism of how everyone ignored Al Gore because the effects of climate change weren't visibly in front of us.
Worse even, IMO, their strategy of "attack every position so we can't be seen as biased" meant their effective ethos was "caring is for losers"
What people take away for themselves is a function of their already-existing bias. I watched south park during a formative period of my life and the lesson I took away is that everything can be laughed at, and how ridiculous some of the things we take for granted are.
Yeah there's definitely some of that. I don't know if they made these people or these people flocked to SP because they see some of themselves in it. I guess people who don't have established belief systems can be influenced that way. I've always viewed it from a leftist lens and perhaps I see what I want to see and miss what I don't. They're often ambiguous enough to let me do that. I can totally see how that could and perhaps does work differently for others.