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[-] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago

"She's probably right." "Dude was probably violent." "Easier to give up your guns than fight this in court" "Just give up your guns!"

Lmao wowww lemmy. Nobody here likes due process?

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

Lot of US leftists and liberals hate guns, as a reaction to the right’s obsession with them.

It is a stupid and dangerous reaction, because they give up their means of self-defense against far right militias and a fascist government.

[-] StarMerchant938@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're spot on. I lean HARD left myself and still I'm actively advocating all my friends go out and purchase a firearm while they can. Not for some far fetched rebellion against tyranny, but simply to protect themselves from getting hate-crimed by the scum who will inevitably feel they've been given permission to do so by this regime. Furthermore if they do start deporting citizens for undesirable political behavior, I know I'd rather be six feet under than in CECOT or South Sudan.

[-] zzx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly. I'm fully capable of both owning a gun and advocating for gun control at the same time... People act like you're a traitor to the cause.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

No, lots of liberal hate guns. Lots of leftists are either anarchist or communist, both of which support arming the populace. Many socialists support gun ownership as well.

[-] o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

😂 right! Like the fascist government that is now taking hold of the US. Not fascist enough to defend themselves yet?

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

Then they post about how the gun owners aren't doing anything to stop the fascist government. Yea, you've been alienating them for decades. They're not on your side.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

They're saying that ironically because the gun fetishists always excused their behavior with fighting tyranny. Then matched in goose-step to vote for a tyrant

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I don't hate guns, I hate the "gun rights" movements and there fetishization of a skewed interpretation of the second amendment where any individual has the unalieanable right to own a gun.

Even if a violent revolution were to happen, which odds are 99 to 1 it wont happen in the US in our lifetimes, then people like op hoarding guns aren't going to help. A well regulated militia might but that requires social organization and discipline, which most people in the gun rights movement don't have the time or willingness for.

They aren't serious about using guns to defend liberty, they just like the aesthetic of it and make it part of there personality. So much so that they get offended by dumb and probably made up stories like this but not the countless other similar stories where there were no red flag laws and the gf gets killed.

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I think we just don't like guns.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 15 points 2 months ago
[-] individual@toast.ooo -2 points 2 months ago

but that's bc you are a bad person.

[-] the_elder@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

Speak for yourself. God forbid men should have a hobby.

[-] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 2 months ago

Are you really pretending this is about men having hobbies?

[-] the_elder@midwest.social 12 points 2 months ago

I use my rifles for hunting. Some people like collecting and sport shooting. Some have theirs for self defense in higher crime areas because they can't afford better. So yeah?

[-] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 2 months ago

It can be a hobby, sure. But men having a hobby isnt was was being discussed at all. Nobody cares about men having hobbies, the issue is when this hobby is a potential threat to other people. Isnt this rather obvious?

[-] the_elder@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago

You know exactly as much as I do about this hypothetical situation. Girlfriend cheats. Guy breaks up. Girl calls cops. Guy gets guns confiscated. If your argument is nothing more than "Well maybe he deserved it" you're an asshole.

[-] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 months ago

Thats just not what im saying.

[-] the_elder@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

It sure feels like what you're saying is that due process goes out the window for things you don't like.

[-] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 months ago

Where you got that from? Looks like your imagining a whole other discussion there

[-] the_elder@midwest.social 8 points 2 months ago

I'm probably just incredibly disillusioned and mad at the state of the world and the lack of nuance on the internet these days and taking it out on you. My apologies.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Due process is dead in America, homie

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

I'm pro gun, I'm just considering the statistics of a 4chan-er. Maybe that's profiling, but I'm not a judge. He should certainly have his day in court, I'm just predicting the outcome.

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