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updated as of yesterday (July 21): based on a statistical model developed by a prestigious medical journal called The Lancet, Israel has killed roughly 434,800 people in Gaza since the country’s military started to attack the territory on 8 October 2023. That’s 20.7% of Gaza’s entire pre-conflict population dead. Over half are women and children.

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[-] refolde@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

Is Israel what Nazi Germany would have turned out if every allied power except the Soviet Union and China had sided and backed them instead?

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Nazi Germany was always a much more powerful nation, and existed during a time where it was easier for them to gloss over the magnitude of their violence to the foreigners (and there were more foreigners who liked pogroms). Israel is still not on the level of Nazi Germany, not because it's morally superior but because it's just not in a position to feasibly "accomplish" many of the things that the Nazis did and, as deranged as it can be, Israel does still have a mote of self-preservation.

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Israel is not capable of accomplishing anything on it's own and it's hasn't. It was always the US. It should really be called the US-Israeli Genocide. And the US is way more powerful than Nazi Germany ever was.

Israel does still have a mote of self-preservation

I'm not so sure of that.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Israel is being supplied by the US and gets intelligence and sometimes direct military assistance from the US, but it can't negate being a small country with a small population. It's a limited vessel, one which can be broken much more easily than the US itself can be.

It also knows this and, while it also does lots of reckless things, it still is able to heel at least momentarily now and then when the US actually tells it to. It's not just all gas every second, just most of the time.

[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The US absolutely can tell it to heel, and the US absolutely won’t tell it to heel.

[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Samson option is as likely for 2025-26 as anything.

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Israel was established by murdering and displacing the people who lived there. Israel has never fought a defensive war.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Could you help me understand what relevance that has to the Nazi Germany comparison?

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

Have you heard of the phrase Lebensraum?

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Obviously, but that doesn't answer my question.

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