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[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Bicycles are not cars, and should not be treated identically to cars. Your post sounds like you've never ridden a bicycle in a city before. Bicycles stopped at traffic lights are kinda in an impossible situation. Coming to a 100% complete stop means dismounting and putting your feet on the pavement. Briefly becoming a pedestrian in the road. Basically asking people to rear end you, because they don't expect a 100% complete stop either. Red lights become "yield" signs. "Stop as yield" or an "Idaho stop" are known to be safer for everyone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

Idaho Stop

That may be a law in a few states, but New York is not one of those.

But the author isn't advocating for this law, she's arguing that cyclists should be treated the same as cars...

Which is what you're apparently mad at me about?

Did you mean to reply to the main post and you're arguing with the article's author? I don't think she'll read these comments.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I still don’t understand how running a red lights on a bicycle makes anything safer… Especially for the cyclist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop#Safety

A 2009 study showed a 14.5% decrease in bicyclist injuries after the passage of the original Idaho Stop law (though did not otherwise tie the decrease to the law).[15][16] A Delaware state-run study of the "Delaware Yield" law (allowing bicyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs) concluded that it reduced injuries at stop-sign controlled intersections by 23%.[17]

It's safer dude. You asked how it was safer, here are numbers of how it's safer.

[-] jagungal@aussie.zone 5 points 5 days ago

The Idaho Stop is not the same as running a red. I've been riding all my life and riding on the road since I was 12. You shouldn't run red lights; it's unpredictable and just downright dangerous if you do it at the wrong intersection.

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Except for the 6 states where it's legal. Like in the link I posted. Because it is safer than not. But IDK why I expected people to read the link.

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