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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Where are concentration camps happening already?

Where is a popular fascist already in power?

Fucking Americans playing whataboutism when they’re a mile down the road already.

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's not "whataboutism". It's about understanding historical context and threads that tie history and geopolitics across time and oceans.

Yes, I'm an American and it's bad back home. Arguably worse than ever before. And the American flavor of conservative techno-feudalism certainly has its own unique stench. We have much to fight, and we suck at it (currently).

However, I live in the Netherlands currently, since July of 2022, and not exactly by choice. My (Dutch) then-fiance-now-wife got an incurable diagnosis during the pandemic, preventing her from moving to the U.S. But before, I've been all over Europe. I've read plenty of "Western Civilization" history textbooks in high school and university as well. I see all of the right-wing conservative macho bullshit here in supposedly "liberal Northwest Europe" that I see emanating from MAGA pussies back home. In the Netherlands, that would be the BBB and the PVV.

The mentality I'm referring to is from here. In Europe. EVERYthing in modern US conservative talking points can trace its roots right back to puritanical European ~~Christian white supremacist monarchism/fascism/authoritarianism,~~ "WE'RE-IN-CHARGE-FOREVER-BECAUSE-WE'RE-'CIVILIZED'"-ism.

"God, Gold, and Glory" was a thing long before U.S was. The American flavor of it has its roots here, so, please, as an American not of European descent, cut the fucking bullshit. Don't throw stones from your supposedly manicured glass houses. Or, if I'm wrong, invite some Roma people or economic migrants from <insertFormerColonialTerritoryHere> into your home, with all of that holier-than-thou "love" in your heart.

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