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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I remember from history class that a boat of Jewish refugees was turned away from several ports during WW2. Wild to have lived long enough to see that reason completely flip and have a decadent cruise turned away for supporting genocide.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In any case, Jews =/= Israeli

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

Israel exists because there wasn't anywhere in the world that would grant Jews asylum in WW2. Rejecting boatloads of Jews is continuing the strong case for the need for a Jewish state.

And you can't call Jews living in Israel "colonists" as if they can "go back to Europe" now. They can't leave Israel now,

On one hand there's a large number of people that want to "wipe Israel off the map" and on the other hand we have European countries not allowing Jews to enter. So what is the meaning behind "wipe Israel off the map" now?

I used to think a Jewish state wasn't necessary, though I didn't have a problem with there being one. I figured we'd never go back to a to the dark times of the past. But now I'm absolutely convinced that a Jewish state is 100% necessary. So... congratulations, protesters?

[-] drhodl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm 70 years old and have always supported Israel until now, but I am starting to believe that the world would be better off without Israel. They function with a complete absence of honor and humanity, and completely lack the ability to compromise fairly. Israel is an irritant to a peaceful world.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago

So you want to kill all the Jews in Israel?

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

They didn't even use the word "Jew" in their reply. So why are you conflating the 2?

Holy mental gymnastics, Batman.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago

The thing is with dog whistles is that the people that use them think they're being clever and fooling everyone. But it doesn't really fool anyone, and those that use the dog whistles pretend to be offended when you start talking about the subject they're really talking about.

Seen it hundreds of times with the MAGAs and y'all are no different from them.

[-] agelord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You're showing the mental capacity of a four year old.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, and insulting people instead of responding to what they said is the height of maturity.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Zionists had been colonizing Palestine for decades before the Holocaust. Your statement is patently false.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago

Do you consider all immigration to be "colonization" or is it just when specific ethnicities do it?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

A news article from more than a century ago?

Do we really need to crack open some dusty history books and go over the decline of the Ottoman Empire?

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They are called colonists because they are litterly colonizing land in occupied territories. The government consists of parties that openly call for this.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

They are called colonists because in your information bubble that's the worst thing anyone could ever be. If you were terming the settlers in the West Bank to be colonizers, sure I could understand that.

But I think you mean all Israelis are colonizers (even those who are just living where they were born) as a way to dehumanize Israelis and to rationalize the ethnic cleansing of Jews.

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

You're just rationalizing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Colonisation is at the core in the Israeli government. Call a spade a spade

[-] agelord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The Israelis are colonists who are committing a genocide in order to expand their colony.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Refugee ships also still get intercepted and turned away from various countries. It is nice seeing the violent bigots turned away for a change, though.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Tbh most are migrating for better opportunities, not persecution, but yeah, out of all the boats that are turned away, this one is by far my favorite

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I hear this a lot, but I don't think it's the gotcha people claim it is. Most genocide in the modern day tries to aim for economic strangling by eliminating/stealing what few opportunities exist for some populations. See, for instance, the IDF's efforts to starve Gaza rather than shoot every single Palestinian. Or fascist America's efforts to deny jobs (even the ones that are not in competition) to disabled or minorities.

I don't see it as "I'ma move and get rich", I see it as "I'ma move and not starve on the street".

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