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Even if we take into consideration that 90% (out of 25) could be lying (they aren't), that's still ~3 women he assaulted.

Edit: Damn y'all, thanks for that old internet feeling I keep coming back to Lemmy for. Not a girl in sight in these comments.

Is testifying under oath not considered evidence? There have been so many credible lawsuits against this guy for sexual assault. Honestly what are these files going to prove that we don't already have plenty of evidence for?

And lastly, do you have any idea what going after a rich powerful man for sexually assaulting you does to your life? Why the fuck would anybody put themselves through that if they weren't absolutely sure they had a credible case? Some of the plaintiffs in these cases had their lives and their family's lives threatened and disrupted.

Welp, to the bottom with me I suppose.

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

"Just believe them" is shorthand for "Believe them long enough to actually press charges and hold a trial instead of dismissing them by default".

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I think a lot of people are completely missing the point. Very similar to how saying "black lives matter" doesn't imply that non-black lives do not matter, or that black lives must somehow be considered more important than any other life, the phrase "believe women" doesn't imply that we should start doubting men, or that a woman's testimony should be held as a higher form of evidence than anything else. It's pointing out the clear systemic bias against women in a system controlled and dominated mostly by men who do not want to cede their power and authority.

One of the many flaws of the English language is how difficult it is to condense a very complex sociopolitical message down into a catchy one-liner without losing a ton of the context that got people there in the first place.

[-] Bubbey@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Wasn't BLM just a scam to extract money for its operators?

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

Between charges and a trial is a criminal investigation. If that doesn't give enough reason to proceed to trial, charges are dropped.

A better stat would be %age of accusations that result in an investigation. That should be a lot higher, but police shouldn't be trying to prosecute cases that have nothing but an accusation to court.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

They aren't processing evidence, so what else can they prosecute with? Vibes?

https://www.endthebacklog.org/what-is-the-backlog/

Look up statistics for your area.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

More capacity to process rape kits is something I can get behind. More evidence is good. It would stop people clamouring for convictions based on accusations alone.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

So if you are assaulted with no witnesses then having bruises, stab wounds, and other injuries shouldn't be enough for the police to take any action?

Because that is the physical evidence that the police routinely dismiss.

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's because they're not looking for evidence that shows a crime was committed, they're looking for evidence of who committed the crime

Your injuries are evidence of a crime, but not necessarily evidence of a specific perpetrator

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