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And what is a left libertarian? How do the two coalesce into a 'Libertarian Party' in other countries?

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[-] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The barrier is internal vs external.

The pronouns one prefers are part of the internal experience they have.

Similarly names are a label that one chooses to respond to.

Whereas other labels are related to things one does, which can be externally verified. If someone describes themselves as a doctor, but has no practice or medical certificate, it is reasonable to not apply that label to them. No matter how much they insist otherwise.

Yes, words change, and the meanings too. But since that happens for even the most mundane object, we can't really be surprised to see it happen to more complicated concepts :p

So for me, the barrier is internal experience vs. External reality.

Where do you draw the line?

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

I like your take on it; the issue comes in that conflict where external labels don't align with internal pronouns (or any other form of self-identity, such as identifying as a particular race despite genetic dominance). We want to respect people's self-image, when we can, don't we?

For me, it's the good faith test. It can be difficult, or impossible, to determine bad faith, but sometimes it's obvious. Trans people usually seem sincere about their identities, so I take them at face value. A meat eater insisting they be called 'vegan' is just mocking self-identification and kicking back at the whole pronouns thing, for whatever reason. That's not good faith; that's being contrarian.

That's my line, until someone convinces me of a better one.

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