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[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago

Normally, I would have advocated for the nationalization of Starlink and SpaceX as a matter of national and global security, but it's not like the current American regime would do any better. I'm not going to be counting on them to investigate, let alone prosecute the affairs of this Russian junkie-stooge either.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Regardless of who would do better, the entirety of SpaceX and Starlink were paid for using American taxpayer's money and government contracts. We already paid for it, we should own it.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Ohh, just wait till they privatize weather, mail, prison. hospitals...

It's gonna be too expensive to live on this planet for YOU.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

both prisons and most hospitals are private.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Two of those are literally already privatised in America, and one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.

One? Last I checked, both weather and mail are both on their way to privatization.

[-] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

As I look out the window at rain that was in the forecast yesterday, but not this morning.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Damn, mail too? That didn't make international headlines the way shutting down the weather service did.

[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago

Brain dead take honestly. Nationalization doesn’t work out 11 times out of 10. Look at NASA, SpaceX ran circles around them with a tini tiny fraction of the funding.

Nationalization does not mean it belongs to “us” it belongs to the government, an entity with motivations, incentives and desires different from “us” the people.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Could you elaborate on how SpaceX "ran circles around NASA", seeing as how NASA basically pioneered every single piece of modern space technology, and all SpaceX is doing is fumbling to rearrange it like Legos that explode on the launch pad? Lol

[-] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Not only that,but NASA gave this knowledge away for free - to the universities that taught the people who now work for Muskler.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah. These dumbasses forget that government funding is what originally set the stage and enabled any progress at all for private company-entrepreneurs who benefitted from all that publicly available knowledge, paid for by our tax dollars.

Innovation will slow to a trickle with all these government cuts because these companies literally can't pay for anything not directly related to their bottom dollar, and none of them can see far enough past next quarter's profits to invest in the future.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I actually am skeptical of nationalization. I think the free market is more efficient in most situations.

But if you think SpaceX is running circles around NASA, well that's so ridiculous that I'm starting to doubt myself.

[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

They did though, they massively cut costs of launching a rocket, which is again the real barrier for space exploration, especially commercially viable space exploration. It’s not clear that NASA could have done that seeing how their costs remained roughly the same for decades, but don’t take it from me, take it from NASA themselves:

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf

What’s your counter argument for saying they didn’t run circles around NASA?

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

That’s bound to happen every now and then. At least it hasn’t happened with people inside.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If Tesla is any indication, it's only a matter of time.

[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Well the engineers at SpaceX are generally more responsible and more concerned with security than Tesla, if only because the hardware is so expensive. But yes, it could happen any of these days.

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