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[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 week ago

Brain dead take honestly. Nationalization doesn’t work out 11 times out of 10. Look at NASA, SpaceX ran circles around them with a tini tiny fraction of the funding.

Nationalization does not mean it belongs to “us” it belongs to the government, an entity with motivations, incentives and desires different from “us” the people.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Could you elaborate on how SpaceX "ran circles around NASA", seeing as how NASA basically pioneered every single piece of modern space technology, and all SpaceX is doing is fumbling to rearrange it like Legos that explode on the launch pad? Lol

[-] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Not only that,but NASA gave this knowledge away for free - to the universities that taught the people who now work for Muskler.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah. These dumbasses forget that government funding is what originally set the stage and enabled any progress at all for private company-entrepreneurs who benefitted from all that publicly available knowledge, paid for by our tax dollars.

Innovation will slow to a trickle with all these government cuts because these companies literally can't pay for anything not directly related to their bottom dollar, and none of them can see far enough past next quarter's profits to invest in the future.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

I actually am skeptical of nationalization. I think the free market is more efficient in most situations.

But if you think SpaceX is running circles around NASA, well that's so ridiculous that I'm starting to doubt myself.

[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

They did though, they massively cut costs of launching a rocket, which is again the real barrier for space exploration, especially commercially viable space exploration. It’s not clear that NASA could have done that seeing how their costs remained roughly the same for decades, but don’t take it from me, take it from NASA themselves:

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20200001093/downloads/20200001093.pdf

What’s your counter argument for saying they didn’t run circles around NASA?

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

That’s bound to happen every now and then. At least it hasn’t happened with people inside.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

If Tesla is any indication, it's only a matter of time.

[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Well the engineers at SpaceX are generally more responsible and more concerned with security than Tesla, if only because the hardware is so expensive. But yes, it could happen any of these days.

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