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yeah there's nothing good in western culture that's characteristic of men/masculinity and not just an everybody thing.
I really meant it when I said "gender as a moral construct is itself toxic," because once it is conceptually unmoored from sex (as it should be), you can't make any coherent idea about what is actually good or bad that is particular to one gender, no matter the culture, because what's left is either aesthetic (which I'm indifferent to) or an explicitly reactionary pigeon-holing. It's good for anyone to be empathetic; it's good for anyone to, within their means, protect others; it's good for anyone to, within their means, provide for others who can't provide for themselves; etc. None of this is specifically about western culture, it is about all of humanity, including western culture.
(Even with gender moored to sex, you can ultimately make similar arguments, but this one is simpler and the added premise is one that everyone here agrees with, so I'm just sticking to that)
i think marginalized genders have more coherence because of the resistance component but i can't speak to identifying with a particular set of vibes because i don't experience anything i could recognize as gender.
What do you believe it is ethically positive for marginalized genders to do that it is not ethically positive for cis men to do?
resist, but i didn't mean ethics when i said coherent. i mean that marginalization creates something that has more grounding in reality, and this idea is probably downstream of writings on racism and applies to other axes of marginalization.